For years, active shooter drills in Philly schools taught students and teachers to barricade themselves in classrooms. Now, the School District of Philadelphia is implementing a new training known as ALICE - Alert, Lockdown, Inform, Counter, and Evacuate. The idea is to give students and their teachers more ways to respond under pressure. But one of those options, countering, involves trying to distract the shooter. Host Trenae Nuri talks with Eden MacDougall, freelance reporter for Billy Penn and Temple University’s Logan Center for Urban Investigative Reporting, about what’s driving this change and why the training is controversial.

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