Beyond My Years

Phone policies and the science of self-control, starring Angela Duckworth, Ph.D.


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Angela Duckworth, Ph.D., the New York Times bestselling author of Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance, joins Ana Torres to discuss school phone policies and what the science of self-control can tell us works. In this episode, Angela highlights the many complexities surrounding student cell phone use in schools and why there is a need to conduct research, such as her “Phones in Focus” study, to look at which phone policies are actually yielding the best outcomes. She also outlines the limitations of “growth mindset” and "simply trying hard," and instead suggests four ingredients that set young people up to reach their goals. Finally, Ana and Classroom Insider Eric Cross reflect on Angela’s insights, and Eric shares the strategies he plans to implement to provide mentors to his students.

Show notes:

  • Resources:
    • Phones in Focus survey: https://phonesinfocus.org/
    • Read: Schools don’t know how well cellphone policies are working. You can help
  • Connect with Angela Duckworth:
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angeladuckworth
    • X: https://x.com/angeladuckw
    • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/angeladuckworthgrit/
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/angelalduckworth/
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aduckworth
    • Website: https://angeladuckworth.com/
  • Subscribe to Beyond My Years https://amplify.com/beyond-my-years
  • Follow us on Instagram @amplify.education 
  • Connect with Eric Cross: https://www.ericcross.org/ 
  • Connect with Ana Torres: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anayansi-ana-torres-m-ed-26a10654/

Quotes:

“It is not just trying hard that makes you successful. You need to be set up in a situation that helps you like an ally, as opposed to fighting you like an enemy.” —Angela Duckworth, Ph.D.

“Aside from parents, there's nobody more important than teachers in the life of a kid. They are looking to you as a role model.” —Angela Duckworth, Ph.D.

“The strategy for regulating yourself that is the most successful for people of any age tends to be situation modification. That is not relying on willpower, but deliberately placing things either farther or closer, depending on whether you want to do them more or do them less.” —Angela Duckworth, Ph.D.

“There is nothing more beautiful than a person who is fulfilling their potential. When people are doing what they love and doing it with all of their heart, it is like music. It is like poetry.” —Angela Duckworth, Ph.D.

“That science of self-control—we have to actually teach that to our students. That is not something they come out of the womb knowing how to do.” —Ana Torres

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