We’re all feeling it: The exhaustion. The malaise. The discontent. The nagging suspicion that U.S. politics are futile. But if there is any year to resist the temptation of tuning out, say Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor, it’s 2024. The two co-hosts of their popular “no bullshit” podcast Pod Save America join Inside the Hive to discuss the enduring appeal of Donald Trump, the palliative power of seeing comedy in political tragedy, and why voters should view themselves as change agents come November. “Your vote is not about rewarding or punishing Joe Biden or Donald Trump or any candidate,” says Favreau. “Your vote is about yourself and your future and what kind of country you want…The only way forward is to be involved and to try to make things better.”