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What a wild first few days it’s been. Trump’s second term began with his best bud and right hand man extending that hand in a full on H!tler salute. Twice. Some of the voices rushing to defend Elon’s gesture, have also been some of those most active in weaponizing accusations of antisemitism against leftists who protested Israel’s genocide. In the most bizarre way, this moment has show how little some Israel supporters care about actual antisemitism. Join me for an in-depth look at the contradictions and excuses we’ve been seeing in the past few days. Special thanks to Jack from IDSG Pod! — If you enjoy the show pls consider supporting via patreon.com/nicemangos And by leaving a review.

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Sam Harris vs. Elon Patreon post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/sam-harris-vs-120158749?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Polite Conversations Technofascism ep: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0nPioIhFQt6Obo8rWqTBkO?si=r34rdbSiQxms6JV9QiaaYg

Alt-right leader describes himself as a ‘white Zionist’ https://www.timesofisrael.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-tells-israelis-that-jews-are-over-represented/

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The RW ghouls are at it again, using any opportunity they can to fan the flames of hate. Be it a mass shooting, a terrorist attack, a plane crash or a natural disaster like the tragic wildfires in LA - Vultures like Dave Rubin, Elon Musk, Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Matt Walsh, Alex Jones and many more .... are out there trying to spread disinformation and ridiculously pinning the blame for the fires on 'Diversity'.

Join me as I run through some of the worst, most embarrassing takes from these hateful, RW freaks.

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As Promised, the FULL Episode has been unlocked thanks to your podcast reviews and Patreon Subscriptions which help make the show possible. A look at Sam Harris’s post-election transphobic meltdown.

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Woking Up Miniseries Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1caIpbHnvDjKu0Ph4DA0Nb?si=mVwmALDdQnG1w4TgBsu-eg&pi=u-1R3kJWRIR0Om

More about the Centrists at Blueprint Polling: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/blueprint-polling-reid-hoffman-biden-trump.html

https://x.com/blueprint_2024/status/1857464633365508479?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

On the Rise of the Latino far right: https://bsky.app/profile/therightpodcast.bsky.social/post/3lba5o5ls5s2p

Majority of ‘news influencers’ are conservative men: https://www.usermag.co/p/the-majority-of-news-influencers

‘Your body, my choice’: Attacks on women surge on social media following election https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/business/your-body-my-choice-movement-election/index.html

Mass arrests after pro-Israel inciter shouts ‘ki!! The J*ws’ https://x.com/thedailybeast/status/1784261533771464849?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Pro-Israel protestors doing N@zi salute to intimidate anti-Zionist Jewish protestors https://x.com/michaelsoftinc/status/1784254756656939386?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

IOC calls tests that sparked vitriol targeting boxers Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-Ting impossibly flawed https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-imane-khelif-lin-yuting-boxing-13e9529195585404c7b03c96f97dd634

https://abcnews.go.com/International/olympic-boxer-imane-khelifs-gender-center-ioc-iba/story?id=112509303

Gender-affirming surgeries rarely performed on transgender youth https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/gender-affirming-surgeries-rarely-performed-on-transgender-youth/

On day 1 - Biden signed an executive order making it clear that his administration interprets the Civil Rights Act of 1964 as prohibiting workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/interactive_biden-first-day-executive-orders/

Sex Redefined https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

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I was joined by friend of the show Ilyas (@IlyasIbnKarim), a scholar of religion and a German Muslim himself, to discuss the recent attack on a Christmas Market in Magdeburg Germany. As a leftist Ex Muslim myself, who has been warning about the increased radicalization I’ve observed among movement ex muslims, I too had some thoughts about this senseless tragedy.

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Here are the previous episodes the Ilyas was on: https://open.spotify.com/episode/39uY6uWl7lZpzpkKmF8kOa?si=w-Be6_EPSm6j_2bJMNacJg

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1gL0PlTsP4VXrAjNxDrVuf?si=KKGuDye3QsWnmPZRIh48yQ

Find the full extended versions of these episodes on Patreon: Pt 1 https://www.patreon.com/posts/aftershow-7-pt-1-99079871?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Pt 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/aftershow-7-pt-2-99466654?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

Meir Kahane’s cousin rammed his car into pro Palestine protesters last year (thankfully no one was seriously hurt) https://www.timesofisrael.com/cousin-of-extremist-rabbi-kahane-charged-after-ramming-woman-at-anti-israel-protest/

Ex Muslim to TradFash pipeline pt 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ex-mus-to-pt-1-106445369?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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Pt 3: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ex-mus-to-pt-3-106529773?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

The Great Replacement: How New Atheists helped to spread a white nationalist conspiracy theory: https://www.patreon.com/posts/great-how-new-to-112243637?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link

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The Magdeburg attacker was featured in a BBC documentary: https://x.com/lowkey0nline/status/1870395123441275053?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

He spoke openly about his inclinations towards violence https://x.com/lowkey0nline/status/1870407424315625699?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

An interview he did with a German Magazine in 2019 https://x.com/2blibre/status/1870822687700115846?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

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I spoke to independent Dutch photographer Daphne (@ikbendaf) who was on the ground where these riots took place. We spoke about how this incident was reported on, the disinformation surrounding it, and how the narrative was inverted to portray the racist soccer/football hooligans as victims of an antisemitic pogrom.

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Links:

A good summary of how this disinformation campaign in western media went down: https://youtu.be/DvTyg1kJGzM?si=6nnK6IBHOk9LUyvE

BBC claiming that Israeli football fans were attacked using footage of Israeli football fans attacking: https://x.com/jewdas/status/1854842291128582595?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Dutch photographer Annet correcting disinformation online https://x.com/iannetnl/status/1854704169560531426?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

NY Times killed investigation of Israeli hooligans, internal email reveals https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/ny-times-killed-investigation-israeli-hooligans-internal-email-reveals

Amsterdam Police talking about the actions of Maccabi Tel Aviv fans https://x.com/theserfstv/status/1855078297341767699?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Thread by Jewish activist on the history of Maccabi Tel Aviv’s racist fan base https://x.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1854994292449677493?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Israeli Soldier Mazal Edri saying that ‘women and children in Gaza will pay the price’ for what happened in Amsterdam https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1855003413773533644?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Israeli supporters of the football club Maccabi Haifa are seen attempting to burn the flags of Palestine and Netherlands while chanting “Gaza is a cemetery” at Teddy stadium in Jerusalem. https://x.com/middleeasteye/status/1855219258827186322?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw Maccabi

Tel Aviv fans singing genocidal songs after being ‘rescued’ and arriving at the airport back in Israel https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1855173606273151436?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Sky News removing their own report to reframe and re-edit it https://x.com/david_k_clark/status/1855228917545685005?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

IDF soldiers make threatening posts about Amsterdam on Instagram using Palestinian abductees https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1854887044369076322?s=61&t=

Dutch police arrest more than 100 Palestine solidarity protesters in Amsterdam after they defied a demonstration ban put in place after clashes between Israeli Maccabi Tel Aviv fans and people in the city https://x.com/ajenglish/status/1855666970701549747?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Maccabi Tel Aviv supporter tells the IDF to Attack Amsterdam https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1856066303884181683?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Amsterdam mayor regrets using word ‘pogrom’ https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/1858533745852035091?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Clips of Amsterdam locals reacting to Maccabi Tel Aviv violence are from Middle East Eye https://youtube.com/shorts/FLglbgp9VwU?si=2wzUWQE3Av06WdjD

On Zionists doing antisemitism at student encampments: https://x.com/thedailybeast/status/1784261533771464849?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Nearly 70% of victims in Gaza are women and children https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn5wel11pgdo

Israel’s Hannibal Directive https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-07-07/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-ordered-hannibal-directive-on-october-7-to-prevent-hamas-taking-soldiers-captive/00000190-89a2-d776-a3b1-fdbe45520000

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Here’s an in-depth look at Sam Harris’s post-election transphobic meltdown. Which hasn’t changed much from his 2016 post-election meltdown.

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More about the Centrists at Blueprint Polling: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/blueprint-polling-reid-hoffman-biden-trump.html

https://x.com/blueprint_2024/status/1857464633365508479?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

On the Rise of the Latino far right: https://bsky.app/profile/therightpodcast.bsky.social/post/3lba5o5ls5s2p

Majority of ‘news influencers’ are conservative men: https://www.usermag.co/p/the-majority-of-news-influencers

‘Your body, my choice’: Attacks on women surge on social media following election https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/business/your-body-my-choice-movement-election/index.html

Mass arrests after pro-Israel inciter shouts ‘ki!! The J*ws’ https://x.com/thedailybeast/status/1784261533771464849?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

World court finds Israel responsible for Apartheid https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/07/19/world-court-finds-israel-responsible-apartheid

Angela Carini apologizes to Imane Khelif https://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/articles/c2j3jg51rg4o

IOC calls tests that sparked vitriol targeting boxers Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-Ting impossibly flawed https://apnews.com/article/olympics-2024-imane-khelif-lin-yuting-boxing-13e9529195585404c7b03c96f97dd634

Emane’s father shares document with Reuters that states her gender https://www.reuters.com/sports/olympics/father-algerian-boxer-khelif-says-he-is-honoured-by-his-daughter-2024-08-03/

Inside the tough childhood of Emane Khelif https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/imane-khelif-olympics-boxer-trans-debate-gender-xy-chromosome-b2594067.html

Tenured Jewish professor fired for criticism of Israel https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty-issues/academic-freedom/2024/09/27/tenured-jewish-prof-says-shes-fired-pro-palestine

Gender-affirming surgeries rarely performed on transgender youth https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/gender-affirming-surgeries-rarely-performed-on-transgender-youth/

Biden’ s day 1 executive orders https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/interactive_biden-first-day-executive-orders/

Sex Redefined https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/kamala-harris-trans-rights-platform/ In a 2019 ACLU survey, Kamala Harris said she supported gender-affirming care for all trans adults, even those who were incarcerated in prisons or ICE facilities.

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Entering the arena of US ElectionTakes™ now that I’ve finally gotten over the initial shock. There are of course multiple lenses to look at the results through and many ways to interpret what went wrong. I’ve seen people suggest the main factors are racism/sexism… while others say the main issue was The Dems’ failure to speak to financial pain, currently felt across the nation. I say…why not both?

These things are often connected - throughout history we’ve seen fascism rise in times of economic woes.

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In the extended version we discuss Bari Weiss, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins and Andrew Sullivan comes up too.

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YouGov/IMEU poll mentioned in the episode: https://x.com/prem_thakker/status/1823907019780128772?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Kamala on The View: https://x.com/halalflow/status/1854496962294214687?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Dawkins’ Tweet: https://x.com/richarddawkins/status/1854527379869175843?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Judge clarifies that yes Trump was found to have R*ped Jean Carroll https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/

Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’ https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/

Trump uses ‘Palestinian’ as a slur: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-criticized-palestinian-insult-debate-with-biden-2024-06-28/

Former White House chief of staff John Kelly says Trump fits the definition of ‘fascist’ https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/john-kelly-says-donald-trump-meets-definition-fascist-rcna176706

Bari Weiss claiming The Dems ran on ‘gender fluidity’ https://x.com/thefp/status/1854609233322344487?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

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Here’s an episode discussing some recent (incredibly bleak) current events, as well as a closer look at how things are being framed in western media to normalize/minimize the horrors of Israel’s actions. We zoom in on a particular Fox News segment, with one Douglas Murray, who is currently living out his most g3nocidal fantasties, hanging with the Israeli Diaper Forces.

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Douglas Murray’s Fox News clip, featured in this episode: https://x.com/breeesq/status/1845204895353405459?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Douglas Murray crying about census results: https://x.com/nicemangos/status/968252156385120256?s=61&t=

Former Deputy Head of Israel’s National Security Council is calling on all IDF soldiers and officers to defy orders and not carry out war crimes in Northern Gaza. https://x.com/benzionsanders/status/1848667535207526587?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

Ethnic cleansing conference titled ‘Conference to Re-settle Gaza’ organized by Likud https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/edge-gaza-israeli-settlers-want-back-2024-10-21/

BBC question time ‘Has Israel Gone Beyond Self Defense’ https://youtu.be/5I2-ikpaC4Q?si=HClIMmH8NAxLuw3y

CNN article that sympathizes with the IDF over the 100s of people they eliminate: https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/middleeast/gaza-war-israeli-soldiers-ptsd-suicide-intl/index.html

Howard Jacobson claims that reporting on how many children were killed by Israel is a form of Blood Libel: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/06/tales-of-infanticide-have-stoked-hatred-of-jews-for-centuries-they-echo-still-today

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/rationalizing-the-horrors-of-israels-war-in-gaza

Douglas’ g3nocide cosplay https://x.com/nicemangos/status/1848030154485895643?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

The total number of United Nations member states that recognize a Palestinian state is 146 out of 193. https://www.newsweek.com/number-nations-recognize-palestine-statehood-growing-1903643

Murray’s Holocaust revisionism published in the Jewish Chronicle https://www.thejc.com/lets-talk/why-must-jews-watch-their-backs-as-london-mobs-cheer-ul2b765s - a publication that recently went through an embarrassing scandal, having to remove a series of articles based on ‘wild fabrications’ as well as having to remove the ‘freelance journalist’ that made it all up. As he had also misrepresented his resume. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/14/crisis-at-jewish-chronicle-as-stories-are-withdrawn#:~:text=The%20world's%20oldest%20Jewish%20newspaper,had%20also%20misrepresented%20his%20résumé.

The conversation between Peter Beinart & Ta-Nehisi Coates referenced in this episode https://open.spotify.com/episode/6RbSzXch8D4ZlbVaIfJVw6?si=zT2GJdpyR2CqcfAgFQhUDg

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Here’s a link to the footage of Sinwar’s final moments, as well as someone on Israeli TV immediately recognizing the release of this footage for the tactical error it was. https://x.com/middleeasteye/status/1848557740819681509?s=61&t=w7q_ejvwZ_gCFj9WV50Lqw

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