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(Episode 83)
DESCRIPTION
Matthew Loftus is a family physician who teaches and practices at a Presbyterian mission hospital in Kenya. He has been treated for depression himself. He is not against therapy. His argument is that therapy is a discipline with boundaries, and that what has escaped those boundaries is something else.
In this conversation we work the distinction. Therapy finds a barrier and helps you get past it. Therapy culture invites you to settle in, and eventually to move in, until the diagnosis stops describing you and starts being you. Loftus names the cost in one word: agency.
We ask how much of this the church built for itself, and whether decades of pragmatic, seeker-sensitive ministry left soil that therapy culture could root in. We press on shame, which Loftus calls a fence around a pit, and on what that fence does once you are already in the pit. We get to concept creep, linguistic inflation, and the fire alarm you pull only when the building is actually burning.
We also ask what you say to someone who cannot pray to a heavenly father because their own father was abusive. His answer is the best four minutes of the episode.
And we end where his book ends, with an old prayer that is the opposite of an affirmation.
Matthew Loftus, Resisting Therapy Culture: The Dangers of Pop Psychology and How the Church Can Respond (IVP, 2026).
KEY QUOTE
"My best form of resistance is self-medication."
Loftus, describing the story people tell themselves once they've concluded the forces arrayed against them are too large to fight. He calls it the end point of a lot of therapy culture.
RESOURCES MENTIONED
KEYWORDS
therapy culture, Matthew Loftus, Resisting Therapy Culture, pop psychology, mental health and the church, diagnosis as identity, loss of agency, shame, Brené Brown, cognitive behavioral therapy, reverse CBT, concept creep, family estrangement, no contact, Fredrik deBoer, Christian counseling, pastoral care, medicalization, self-actualization, the Jesus Prayer
TAGS
therapy culture · Matthew Loftus · mental health · Christian counseling · pastoral care · agency · shame · CBT · diagnosis · estrangement · pop psychology · church leadership · PostEverything
HASHTAGS (promo post)
#PostEverything #TherapyCulture #MatthewLoftus #MentalHealthAndFaith
(Episode 82)
Acts 16 is usually read as a travel log — Paul crossing into Macedonia, planting a church at Philippi. Missiologist Daniel Yang reads it as the record of an impossible coalition: a businesswoman, a trafficked girl, a Roman jailer, held together by nothing the ancient world would recognize as common ground.
John Houmes and Yang trace that same tension into the present: the homogeneous unit principle and its costs, what the pandemic exposed about the American church's capacity to hold disagreement, and Yang's discipline of asking whether his convictions are formed by scripture or borrowed from a movement. The conversation closes on trauma as mission field — the body as a spiritual vehicle, and where the therapeutic and the theological pull apart.
Key Quotes
Resources Mentioned
Becoming a Future-Ready Church — Daniel Yang, Adelle M. Banks, Warren Bird (Zondervan, 2024) · Yang's forthcoming book on the church and displacement (World Relief / InterVarsity Press, expected spring 2027) · Divided by Faith — Michael Emerson & Christian Smith · Understanding Church Growth — Donald McGavran · The Anxious Generation — Jonathan Haidt · Resisting Therapy Culture — Matthew Loftus · Diane Langberg (trauma/mission field) · Tim Keller, Matt Chandler (Acts 16 commentary) · Barry Henning (reconciliation/justice quote) · Greg Perry (previous guest) · Pastor Serve · Spanish River Church counseling center · Pew Research, 2013/2025 Religious Landscape studies (58% of U.S. immigrants are Christian)
Keywords — future-ready church, oikos, homogeneous unit principle, Jerusalem to Antioch, embodied gospel, trauma-informed ministry, World Relief, Churches of Welcome, meaning crisis
Tags: Daniel Yang, Post Everything, John Houmes, Becoming a Future-Ready Church, Acts 16, World Relief, Church Diversity, Christian Nationalism, Immigration and Faith, Tim Keller
Chapters
00:00 🎙️ Cold Open
01:06 📖 Meet Daniel Yang
02:33 ⛪ Acts 16's Unlikely Cast
06:48 🏠 Oikos, Not Synagogue
10:15 🎯 The Homogeneous Unit Principle
14:27 💜 Inside a Purple Church
16:49 🔥 Antioch Was Born From Conflict
18:05 👪 Salvation Isn't Just Individual
20:31 🐺 When the Tribe Eats the Church
23:14 🪞 Am I Proof-Texting My Politics?
26:34 🛂 Immigration Justice Under ICE
29:16 🌍 A Vision for the Nations
34:17 🍇 Communion in a Divided City
35:52 🧭 Jerusalem to Antioch
38:54 🤝 Partnering With Minority Churches
46:50 ⚖️ Reconciliation Without Justice
49:10 🌾 McGavran and the Masses
51:48 🧠 Trauma as Mission Field
58:26 💎 Glory Outweighs the Trauma
1:02:03 📜 Psalms and a Breaking Point
1:07:14 📗 A Borderless Church, Coming 2027
1:08:14 🎬 Solo Reflection Begins
1:10:40 🕊️ Mothered in Jerusalem, Modeled in Antioch
1:15:28 🫂 A Word for Burned-Out Pastors
1:17:54 👋 Outro
(Episode 81)
Description
Brad Edwards cross-posts a conversation recorded for his church after a sermon on Romans 13:1–7 — the passage where Paul tells believers to "be subject to the governing authorities," and one that gets used and misused every political season.
Joining him is returning guest Brad Vaughn — author of Reading Romans with Eastern Eyes, specialist in the Bible's theology of honor and shame, and a former underground-seminary teacher who spent 15 years training pastors in China. Working through real questions texted in by the congregation, they explore church, state, and Christian allegiance with honesty and unusual practicality.
The conversation covers why Romans 13 legitimizes and relativizes the state in a single move; the difference between the church's responsibility for the oppressed and its grasp for power; whether the American Revolution was justified or sinful; how to move from national outrage to human-scale, local love; and why submission to authority is never the same as endorsing it.
A thoughtful, grounded conversation for anyone trying to follow King Jesus faithfully without being absorbed into a political team.
Brad Vaughn's book: Reading Romans with Eastern Eyes. It helps to reread Romans 13:1–7 before listening.
"Faithfulness holds loosely when and how things will be accomplished. Control dictates them." — Brad Vaughn
Resources:
Reading Romans with Eastern Eyes (Brad Vaughn) • Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes (Richards & O'Brien) • Samuel Rutherford, Lex, Rex / the lesser-magistrate principle • N.T. Wright • Ken Burns, The American Revolution • Billy Graham Center (Wheaton) study on Gen Z and politics • Preston Sprinkle • Romans 12–14; Daniel 1–8; Acts 4:19–20; Luke 20; Colossians 2:15
Keywords:
Romans 13, church and state, Brad Vaughn, honor and shame, submission to authority, Christian politics, political theology, American Revolution, lesser magistrate, responsibility and power, allegiance, render unto Caesar, underground church, Post Everything, Brad Edwards
#PostEverything #Romans13 #ChurchAndState #BradVaughn #HonorAndShame #PoliticalTheology #Bible #ChristianPodcast #Allegiance #FaithAndPolitics #Discipleship
Chapters:
00:00 ⚖️ Responsibility Is Not Power
The Ahistoric Age Meets AI: Time, Memory, and Being Human
(Episode 80)
Dr. Sarah Irving-Stonebraker — historian and author of Priests of History — returns to PostEverything to explore what happens when artificial intelligence meets a culture that has already lost its grip on the past.
In her first appearance, she diagnosed "the ahistoric age": a moment that treats history as irrelevant, grows ignorant of it, and reduces it to an ideological weapon. Here, John Houmes and Brad Edwards push the conversation forward into the age of AI. Does AI help us make sense of the past or sever us from it? Does it hand us mastery over knowledge while letting wisdom slip away?
The conversation moves through how AI is quietly reshaping our very experience of time; the day Sarah asked AI to retrieve real manuscript photographs and it fabricated them instead; how the eighteenth-century idea of "useful knowledge" once ranked whole civilizations and returns now in the age of algorithms; the connection between the drive to master knowledge and the oldest temptation in Genesis; why a large language model can never produce the idiosyncratic spark of genuine beauty; and how the church's ancient, embodied practices offer a hopeful counter-formation — anchoring us in a larger story in an anxious age.
A rich, wide-ranging conversation for anyone trying to stay human, and hopeful, in the age of AI.
Sarah's book: Priests of History: Stewarding the Past in an Ahistoric Age. Her next book — an invitation to the Christian story — is in progress.
"When there is no larger story, you have no meaning and no purpose. These are counterfeit stories, because they don't have an end."
— Dr. Sarah Irving-Stonebraker
Resources:
Priests of History (Sarah Irving-Stonebraker) • Sarah's forthcoming book, an invitation to the Christian story • The Reason for Church (Brad Edwards) • The Drama of Discipleship with Dr. Greg Perry (previous episode) • Adam Ferguson, Adam Smith, Lord Kames — Scottish Enlightenment "useful knowledge" • Francis Bacon — "the improvement of mankind's estate" • Robert Boyle — "priests of nature" • Max Weber • George Santayana • Antonín Dvořák — New World Symphony • James K. A. Smith, How to Inhabit Time • Tristan Harris / Center for Humane Technology, Your Undivided Attention • Pope Leo's encyclical on AI • Dallas Willard / Eugene Peterson — "a long obedience in the same direction" • transhumanism; metamodernism
AI, artificial intelligence, ahistoric age, Sarah Irving-Stonebraker, Priests of History, history, useful knowledge, epistemology, time, spiritual formation, counterformation, church, liturgy, wisdom, beauty, technology and faith, Christianity and AI, discipleship, Post Everything
#PostEverything #AI #AhistoricAge #SarahIrvingStonebraker #PriestsOfHistory #History #Faith #SpiritualFormation #Church #Wisdom #ChristianPodcast #Technology #Discipleship
CHAPTERS
00:00 ⏳ Time as Meaningless Moments
1:07:28 ⏱️ Stewarding Time and Attention
1:12:51 🧍 What Will Humans Become?
The Drama of Discipleship: Re-Narrating Our Lives in God's Story
Episode 79
Dr. Greg Perry—New Testament scholar, President of Thirdmill Seminary, and author of The Drama of Discipleship—joins John Houmes fresh off a teaching tour across Asia. Their conversation moves from what the global church is actually asking (and how different it is from the West) to a fresh vision of discipleship: not a curriculum to master, but a drama to perform together inside God's story.
Greg unpacks the six "episodes" of the biblical story—Creation, Rebellion, Israel, Jesus, Church, New Creation—and the practices that flow from them. The conversation covers integral mission and the holding together of word and deed, the church as an embassy of Christ's kingdom in a host culture, the improv principle of "no blocking" as a posture toward our neighbors, the difference between fieldwork and heartwork, and why the small stories on offer from consumerism and politics can't bear the weight of a human life.
A rich, hopeful conversation for pastors, ministry leaders, and anyone longing to live inside a bigger story.
Greg's book: The Drama of Discipleship. His next book, Grace with Skin On: What Deacons Do (with Chris Sicks), releases Fall 2026.
"All the little stories on offer—consumerist, political, about physical beauty—they cannot bear the weight of being an image-bearer of God." — Dr. Greg Perry
The Drama of Discipleship (Greg Perry) • Grace with Skin On: What Deacons Do (Perry & Sicks, Fall 2026) • Third Millennium Ministries / Thirdmill Seminary • Adoniram Judson • The Lausanne Movement / integral mission • Cornelius Plantinga, Not the Way It's Supposed to Be • Dorothy Sayers • Christopher J. H. Wright, The Mission of God • Trevin Wax, The Thrill of Orthodoxy & Eschatological Discipleship • René Girard • Aaron Renn ("negative world") • Covenant Theological Seminary • New City Fellowship, St. Louis
discipleship, Greg Perry, The Drama of Discipleship, spiritual formation, evangelism, integral mission, global church, missions, Thirdmill, gospel, re-narration, meaning crisis, church as embassy, reconciliation, worship, witness, shalom, Christian discipleship, Post Everything
#PostEverything #Discipleship #GregPerry #DramaOfDiscipleship #SpiritualFormation #IntegralMission #GlobalChurch #Evangelism #Thirdmill #ChristianPodcast #Missions #Discipleship #Worship #Reconciliation
CHAPTERS
00:00 🎭 Witnesses, Not Mere Messengers
New Atheism & the Returning Ride w/ Justin Brierley:
Summary:
Justin Brierley spent nearly two decades hosting debates between the world's leading atheists and Christians on his show Unbelievable?. In that time he watched New Atheism rise, peak, and collapse—and then witnessed something he calls "the surprising rebirth of belief in God."
In this episode of Post Everything, Brad Edwards and John Houmes talk with Justin about the renewed openness to Christianity across the West, why young men in particular are exploring faith, and what the withdrawn Quiet Revival Report does (and doesn't) tell us. Justin unpacks the difference between revival and rebirth, the limits of cultural Christianity, the rise of "lapsed atheists," the gamification of faith through apps, and why the dehumanizing effects of AI make embodied Christian community more vital than ever.
A thoughtful, hopeful conversation for pastors, church leaders, and anyone trying to read the cultural moment we're living in.
Quotes:
"If all you're aiming for is Christian culture, sadly you won't even get that. You'll get a sub-biblical, idolatrous version of it… you can't have the effects without the source."
"Cultures only get changed when human hearts get changed—and that happens through Christ, ultimately."
Resources Mentioned:
Unbelievable?; The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God (book & podcast); Uncommon Ground — all by Justin Brierley • Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion • the Four Horsemen (Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett) • Tom Holland, Dominion • Matthew Arnold, "Dover Beach" • Douglas Murray • N.T. Wright • Rowan Williams • Jordan & Tammy Peterson • Bible Society's Quiet Revival Report; YouGov • Freya India, "The Commodification of Christianity" (GIRLS Substack) • Hallow, Glorify, YouVersion • Ayaan Hirsi Ali; Niall Ferguson • James Davison Hunter, Democracy and Solidarity • John Vervaeke • Mark Sayers, Rebuilders ("When the Fringe Becomes the Center") • Chris Martin, Terms of Service • The Gospel Coalition, Making Sense of Us • Brad Edwards, The Reason for Church
Key words:
New Atheism, surprising rebirth of belief in God, Justin Brierley, Unbelievable podcast, Christianity, apologetics, cultural apologetics, Gen Z faith, young men Christianity, Quiet Revival, cultural Christianity, meaning crisis, secularism, Tom Holland, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Richard Dawkins, Jordan Peterson, post-Christian culture, AI and faith, embodied community, church leadership, discipleship, revival, Post Everything
#PostEverything #JustinBrierley #NewAtheism #SurprisingRebirth #Christianity #Apologetics #CulturalApologetics #GenZ #MeaningCrisis #Faith #Church #Discipleship #ChristianPodcast #PostChristian
Chapters:
00:00 🪤 The Cultural Christianity Trap
Brad Edwards sits down with Jay Kim, pastor of Westgate Church in Silicon Valley and author of Analog Church, to discuss the spiritual implications of artificial intelligence—and why church leaders urgently need a response.
Key points:
• The difference between attention economy (social media) and attachment economy (AI)
• Why AI companions create relational attachment in ways social media never could
• How tech workers in Silicon Valley are experiencing spiritual crisis over AI displacement
• Marshall McLuhan's theory: When pushed to extremes, technology inverts on itself
• The spiritual discipline of sober-mindedness in an age of endless stimulation
• Why the church must become "weird" again to counter digital culture
• Practical formation practices to help your congregation think deeply (not just consume)
• How pastors can help disciples navigate vocational uncertainty in tech fields
• The role of curiosity and meandering as countercultural spiritual practices
Themes:
• Spiritual formation in digital age
• AI and human relationships
• Church in Silicon Valley
• Pastoral leadership in tech cities
• Technology ethics and faith
Key words:
AI companion, Spiritual formation, Church leadership, Discipleship, Silicon Valley, Artificial intelligence, Technology ethics, Sober-mindedness, Pastoral care, Formation practices, Jay Kim, PostEverything, Digital culture, Embodied community, Tech workers
CHAPTERS:
Making Meaning by Making Enemies:
Tribes, Mimetic Rivals, & Gospel Peace
With John Houmes and Brad Edwards
Why do we need enemies to feel like we belong?
In this conversation, John and Brad unpack Trevin Wax's article "When the Tribe Eats the Church" through the lens of René Girard's scapegoat mechanism—revealing why communities (left and right) use the same tribal pattern to maintain unity.
From mimetic desire to mythological justification, from McCarthyism to cancel culture, we're watching the same mechanism play out in real-time: communities make meaning by making enemies.
But the Resurrection changes everything.
🎯 What You'll Hear
• How expressive individualism evolved into tribalism
• Girard's mimetic desire: we learn what to want by imitating others
• The scapegoat mechanism: communities uniting through accusation and expulsion
• McCarthyism vs. cancel culture—same pattern, different tribes
• Why mythology hides the violence of persecution
• How Christ's resurrection vindicated the innocent victim
• Why double imputation means Christians don't need another scapegoat
• What the church must offer: belonging rooted in worship, not enemies
• How gathered worship reorders our tribal identity
💡 KEY QUOTES
BRAD EDWARDS:
"We don't know how to exist, how to make sense of the world and make meaning without an enemy. That is an incredible enslavement that we have willingly walked into."
JOHN HOUMES:
"We're living in a story that's way too small. Jesus is victorious over our deepest enemy—sin, death, and the devil. He rises from the dead in victory."
📚 RESOURCES
Trevin Wax, "When the Tribe Eats the Church" (Gospel Coalition, April 9, 2026)
René Girard, I See Satan Fall Like Lightning
Luke Burgis, Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life
Eugene Peterson, The Pastor
Michelle Margolis, From Politics to the Pews
#Tribalism #Polarization #ScapegoatMechanism #RenéGirard #TrevinWax #Gospel #Church #Belonging #Identity #Discipleship #PostEverything
Chapters
00:00 🎯INTRO
01:17 🏘️Trevin Wax: When Tribe Eats Church
01:44 👤What Are Tribes? Examples Everywhere
03:32 🎭Tribalism's New Function: Making Meaning
05:47 📱Eugene Peterson: Digital Ecstasy
07:30 🚫Escape Isn't Transcendence
08:51 👎Making Meaning by Making Enemies
09:15 🤖Algorithms Designed to Deliver Enemies
10:17 🏛️Digital Disembodies Everything
11:41 🐴Horseshoe Theory: Same Battlefield
14:16 💔Church Planting on Enemy Opposition
16:36 🔄Echo Chambers Refuse New Ideas
19:45 ❌Tribal Concerns Become Gospel Tests
24:24 🗳️Politics Replaced Religion as Primary
27:34 🔍Introducing René Girard
29:41 🧠Mimetic Desire: We Learn Wanting
30:52 🏆Mimetic Rivalry: Victory Over Object
34:13 🎪Scapegoat Mechanism Brings Peace
37:11 📖Mythology Justifies the Perpetrators
38:20 ☮️McCarthyism and Cancel Culture Parallel
42:30 ✝️Gospel Uniquely Sides With Victim
43:10 🙏Resurrection Breaks the Mechanism
43:55 💫Double Imputation Means No Scapegoats
45:52 📜Stories Too Small, Jeremiah Example
57:25 🤝Church: Thick Belonging, Gospel Posture
Paideia Not Perfection: Kingdom Family Formation
With Pastor David Cassidy
What does it mean to disciple your children? It's not just rules and Bible verses. It's paideia—the ancient Greek word for formation, enculturation, shaping a person's reflexes, habits, and loves.
In this conversation with Pastor David Cassidy from Spanish River Church, we explore:
• Why behavior management isn't the goal (we don't want "chocolate soldiers")
• The role of beauty, literature, and nature in forming kingdom citizens
• How to start: Who's discipling YOU?
• Why the dinner table is a sacred space
• The difference between a family with Christian elements vs. a family enculturated in the kingdom
• How to build resilient faith in your kids—faith that doesn't crumble when life disappoints
David offers hope: this isn't about perfection. It's about direction. It's a slow drip over 18 years, not a weekend seminar.
⏱ CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:17 Welcome & Paideia overview
01:44 What is paideia? (Greek word unpacked)
04:52 Kingdom paideia vs. family with Christian elements
06:08 Theology comes at your fingertips
08:01 The centrality of love in formation
09:20 Christian worldview isn't enough
13:15 What does a resilient disciple look like?
15:40 Remember whose you are
17:11 Gospel astonishment and enjoyment of Christ
19:07 What shatters faith?
21:28 Chocolate soldiers vs. hearts of repentance
23:34 Fear of the Lord can be taught
25:12 Anti-discipleship forces
28:16 The church's role in kingdom paideia
32:34 Christian schools as an extension of discipleship
34:19 Partnership between parents, church, and school
35:05 How do we practically bring kingdom paideia home?
36:54 Who's discipling YOU?
39:11 Great classics to read
42:11 Taking trips
44:41 Slow drip, not a week-long retreat
44:53 Why the dinner table matters
47:38 Food as connector and sacred space
49:36 Three takeaways from John
📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED
Ephesians 6:4 (paideia language)
Edith Hamilton's Greek Mythology
Augustine's Confessions
Shakespearean Sonnets
John Milton
C.S. Lewis (The Kilns, his home)
Lord of the Rings, The Hobbit, Chronicles of Narnia
Psalm 25 ("Remember whose you are")
Westminster Shorter Catechism
Heidelberg Catechism
💡 KEY QUOTES
"We don't want chocolate soldiers. We want kids who have resilient faith."
"Paideia is about forming reflexes, habits, loyalties, and loves. What kind of human being are we trying to produce?"
"Theology comes at your fingertips—not just a statement of faith you sign your name to, but how you live."
"Who's discipling YOU? That's where we start as parents."
"The dinner table is not a sacrament, but it's a sacred moment."
"This is about direction, not perfection. It's a slow drip over 18 years."
🎙️ ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION
This is a crossover episode between PostEverything (a podcast on culture and formation) and Rooted by the River (a parenting podcast). While Rooted focuses on family discipleship, David's theology of formation through culture, beauty, literature, and everyday rhythms connects deeply to how the Church forms people in a post-Christian age.
Rooted by the River is a Spanish River Church parenting podcast dedicated to equipping families to root deep in Jesus and His love.
spanishriver.com | rootedbytheriver.com
Neil Shenvi on Wokeness, Truth, and the Church
What does it mean to respond to wokeness without panic, caricature, or reactionary tribalism?
In this episode of Post Everything, Brad Edwards and John Houmes sit down with Neil Shenvi, co-author of Post-Woke, to talk about the cultural position of Christianity in 2026, the power of contemporary critical theory, and how churches can form people who are neither ideologically captured nor politically naive.
The conversation explores the complexity of our current moment: Are we in a “negative world,” an apathetic world, or something even more fragmented? How should Christians think about “woke natives,” younger generations shaped by DEI frameworks, oppressor/oppressed binaries, and moral urgency? And how do pastors offer both compassion and clarity when so much of the culture is driven by polarization, fear, and identity conflict?
Shenvi argues that critical theory is not merely a tool or political lens, but a worldview with its own account of identity, justice, truth, and righteousness. But he also warns Christians against responding with simplistic anti-woke rhetoric or drifting toward equally unbiblical reactionary movements on the right.
Together they discuss:
This is a conversation about formation, truth, and the future of the Church in a deeply contested cultural moment.
Key Themes
Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:37 Christianity’s Cultural Position
07:03 Clarity Without Dismissal
13:36 Dialogue, Sources, Truth
18:45 Theory Becomes Religion
25:29 Four Pillars Explained
30:48 When Theory Corrupts
33:41 Poison, Not Meat
35:34 The Woke Right
40:20 Gen Z's Tension
43:39 Can't Split Jesus
47:51 Formation Without God
52:10 Trust Replaces Power
57:23 Love and Truth
01:00:40 Worship Reorients Everything
01:05:33 Pillars as Religion
01:12:44 Justice Without King
01:19:23 God First Vertically
01:28:29 Get to Church
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