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  • 10exa and Inspiring Teams to Achieve Greatness with Lisa Sterling, Chief People Officer at Perceptix

    In this episode, we talk with Lisa Sterling, Chief People Officer at Perceptix. We explore Lisa's journey and uncover her triumphs and the hurdles she overcame on her path to the C-Suite. Lisa candidly discusses workplace dynamics, leadership transitions, the essence of corporate culture, and the pitfalls of silencing one's voice, emphasizing its impact on personal growth. She reflects on the visionary leadership of CEOs such as Rudy Karsan, Troy Kanter, David Ossip, and Scott Scherr, who serve as catalysts for team success. Drawing from her role as a CHRO and an executive, Lisa shares insights on alignment, navigating the CHRO-CEO dynamic, and the strategic choices involved in leadership transitions.

    Takeaways

    • Passion for the product and service of the company you work for is crucial in driving success.
    • Leveraging technology in HR can greatly improve the employee experience.
    • Visionary leaders inspire and motivate their teams to achieve greatness.
    • Working for companies with a strong culture and values can make a significant impact on your career. Passion and alignment are crucial in organizations, as they create a sense of purpose and attract like-minded individuals.
    • The relationship between the CHRO and CEO should be a strategic partnership, with open communication and collaboration.
    • Knowing when to transition between leaders is a personal decision based on factors such as vision alignment and personal growth opportunities.
    • Prioritizing self-care is essential for long-term success and well-being.
    • Don't let others quiet your voice or limit your potential; embrace your unique perspective and contribute confidently.
    • Reflect on your career journey and the impact you have had on others, celebrating the success and growth you have facilitated.

    • Chapters

      00:00 Introduction and Lisa's Journey in HR Tech

      10:58 Breaking the Mold: Challenging HR Norms

      25:59 Transitioning Between Leaders

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      41 min
    • Building Neurodiversity at Work: Challenges and Opportunities

      In this episode we sit down with Anthony Pacilio, VP of Neurodiverse Solutions at CAI, to explore neurodiversity in the workplace and how employers can work to accommodate neurodiverse talent. Neurodiversity is about recognizing and valuing the unique perspectives and abilities of individuals who think differently and process information in a different way.

      Takeaways

      • Neurodiversity is about recognizing and valuing the unique perspectives and abilities of individuals who think differently and process information in a different way.
      • There is a need for education and training to create inclusive work environments for neurodiverse talent.
      • Advocacy and self-advocacy are crucial for neurodivergent individuals to communicate their needs and be successful in the workplace.
      • Companies should focus on empathy and understanding to create a supportive and accepting culture for neurodivergent employees.
      • The interview process should be tailored to accommodate the specific needs and abilities of neurodivergent candidates, rather than relying on standardized questions and processes. Accommodations, such as flexible work arrangements and noise-canceling headphones, are crucial for creating an inclusive workplace for neurodivergent individuals.
      • Training and standardized interviews should be tailored to accommodate the unique needs of neurodivergent candidates.
      • Remote work can be beneficial for many neurodivergent individuals, but some may still prefer the social interaction of a physical workplace.
      • Early intervention and diagnosis are essential in supporting neurodivergent children and helping them reach their full potential.
      • There is a need for intervention programs that support neurodivergent individuals in prisons and help them channel their skills and aptitudes into positive endeavors.

      • Chapters

        00:00 Introductions

        06:07 Building Neurodiversity at Work

        13:17 Anthony's Personal Journey

        22:13 Understanding and Advocating for Neurodivergent Talent

        27:14 The Interview Process and Tailoring for Neurodivergent Candidates

        27:59 Creating an Inclusive Workplace

        33:42 Tailoring Training and Interviews

        37:18 The Benefits and Challenges of Remote Work

        42:23 Early Intervention and Diagnosis

        46:04 Intervention Programs

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        52 min
      • From Accountant to CHRO: Building Workplace Culture Across Borders with Charlie Judy, CHRO

        Charlie Judy, Chief People and Culture Officer at Intelligent Medical Objects, discusses his unconventional journey from accounting to HR, and later to tech innovation. With insights from his 13-year tenure at Deloitte and international assignments, he shares perspectives on workplace culture, remote work challenges, and career transitions. From redefining job hopping to embracing risks, Judy reflects on the evolving landscape of HR and employee experiences.


        Takeaways

        • Charlie Judy's career path from accounting to HR showcases the value of diverse experiences in shaping HR professionals.
        • International assignments can provide unique opportunities for growth and learning.
        • Building a strong brand and understanding cultural nuances are essential when expanding operations in different countries.
        • Transitioning to technology can offer new perspectives and solutions to HR challenges. Assessing workplace culture involves going beyond ratings and understanding the actual experience of working in a company.
        • Defining workplace culture requires identifying the values, behaviors, and norms that shape the work environment.
        • Remote work presents challenges in maintaining a strong workplace culture and connection among employees.
        • Transitioning from entrepreneurship to a corporate role can provide valuable experience and perspective.
        • Job hopping is no longer seen as a negative trait, and companies are valuing diverse experiences and skills.
        • Learning and personal growth are important factors in job satisfaction and should be prioritized in career decisions.
        • Knowing when to leave a job involves self-reflection and understanding one's needs and goals.
        • Taking risks in career decisions can lead to personal and professional growth.
        • Boomerang employees, those who leave a company and return later, can bring valuable experience and knowledge.
        • Employee experience is subjective and varies based on individual preferences and company culture.

        • Chapters

          00:00 Introduction and Background

          06:26 Current Role and Company

          09:59 Non-Traditional Upbringing in HR

          10:21 Early Career in Accounting

          12:11 Transition to HR

          14:01 Experience at Deloitte

          16:17 International Assignments

          19:14 Building a Brand in India

          20:13 Transition to Technology

          21:12 Assessing Workplace Culture

          22:10 Defining Workplace Culture

          23:09 Understanding Work Environment

          24:23 Challenges of Remote Work

          25:24 Transitioning from Entrepreneurship to Corporate

          27:02 Changing Perceptions of Job Hopping

          28:11 The Value of Relevant Experience

          29:14 The Importance of Learning in a Job

          30:24 Knowing When to Leave a Job

          34:09 Taking Risks in Career Decisions

          35:57 The Concept of Boomerang Employees

          37:32 Employee Experience and Expectations


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          58 min
        • Playing Nice in the Talent Sandbox: Navigating Boundaries with Laura Mazzullo from Eastside Staffing

          In this episode, Ryan Leary and William Tincup chat with Laura Mazzullo, founder of Eastside Staffing, about the nuances of talent acquisition. They tackle recruiter therapy, setting boundaries for both hiring managers and candidates, and the pivotal role of external staffing firms as companies scale.

          Takeaways

          • Working with HR clients can be challenging due to the embarrassment factor and the perception that they should be able to handle recruitment themselves.
          • Clients may feel shame or guilt about needing external help, but it's important to remind them that it's not a failure and that external expertise can be valuable.
          • Teaching and educating clients can be beneficial, but it's crucial to focus on delivering results and outcomes rather than getting clients to understand the intricacies of the process.
          • Setting clear boundaries and not taking on responsibilities that are not yours is essential to maintaining a healthy client relationship. Recruiters often struggle with confidence, especially when dealing with high-level executives or difficult conversations.
          • Gender can play a role in confidence levels, with women often feeling less confident in business settings.
          • Building confidence is a challenge for recruiters, but it is essential for success in the industry.
          • Guilt can influence recruiters' decision-making and their desire to please everyone.
          • Setting boundaries and tolerating relationships are important aspects of maintaining confidence and professional success in recruiting.

          • Chapters

            00:00 Introduction and Pronunciation

            01:40 Introducing Laura Mazzullo

            03:27 Challenges of Working with HR Clients

            05:27 The Embarrassment Factor

            09:37 The Perception of Needing External Help

            13:31 Teaching and Educating Clients

            15:27 The Value of Expertise

            17:54 Not Taking on Others' Responsibilities

            18:43 Simplifying Proposals and Processes

            19:24 Not Chasing Clients

            20:33 Managing Client and Candidate Expectations

            21:28 Finding the Threshold for Expectations

            22:33 Prioritizing Recruiter Satisfaction

            23:32 Taking Ownership of Criticism

            25:18 Balancing Self-Blame and Self-Confidence

            26:16 Analyzing Criticism Objectively

            28:24 Educating Candidates on the Hiring Process

            29:24 Understanding Different Definitions of Toxicity

            30:02 The Desire for Perfectionism in Talent Acquisition

            33:33 Giving Feedback to Hiring Managers

            35:27 Fear of Upsetting Hiring Managers

            37:44 Overcoming Fear and Insecurity

            38:27 The Confidence Gap

            39:14 Gender and Confidence

            40:09 The Challenge of Building Confidence

            40:56 The Role of Guilt

            41:48 The Difficulty of Firing and Layoffs

            42:14 The Importance of Remembering Our Worth

            42:48 The Need for Boundaries

            44:00 The Challenge of Getting Hiring Right

            45:27 The Role of Guilt in Recruiting

            46:33 The Pressure to Please Everyone

            48:48 The Fear of Ruffling Feathers

            49:50 Sticking Up for Your Expertise

            51:04 The Importance of Kindness

            52:24 Setting Boundaries and Tolerating Relationships

            55:02 The Consequences of Over-Pleasing

            55:44 The Power of Handwritten Cards

            56:01 Conclusion

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            57 min
          • Talent Acquisition Excellence: Using Digital Capabilities and Analytics to Improve Recruitment

            We speak with TA veteran and 6-time author Bas van de Haterd who has recently co-authored with Kevin Wheeler, "Talent Acquisition Excellence: Using Digital Capabilities and Analytics to Improve Recruitment" We explore technology's role in sourcing, branding, and recruitment processes. From digital pre-selection to analytics, we unravel the ethical considerations and skills essential for future-proof recruitment, featuring real-world case studies and expert insights.

            Key Takeaways

            • Talent acquisition professionals should focus on talent strategy and execution, aligning it with the corporate strategy.
            • There is no one-size-fits-all approach to talent acquisition, and processes should be tailored to specific hiring scenarios.
            • The book emphasizes the importance of being talent-centric and agile in recruitment, adapting processes to meet candidate needs.
            • Cultural differences play a significant role in talent acquisition practices, and understanding these differences is crucial for global recruitment. Assessing candidates' English proficiency is crucial, especially in global organizations.
            • Talent acquisition should evolve into a strategic partner within organizations, focusing on holistic talent management.
            • Pre-hire assessments can provide valuable insights into candidates' skills and fit for the organization.
            • Recruiters should aim to become talent partners, engaging in meaningful discussions with hiring managers.
            • AI skills and data analysis are becoming increasingly important in talent acquisition.
            • Ethical dilemmas arise when using technology in recruitment, and organizations should have open debates about their usage.
            • Automation can be applied to certain recruitment tasks, freeing up time for recruiters to focus on strategic activities.
            • Talent advisors play a crucial role in guiding organizations' talent acquisition strategies.
            • Recruiters should continuously seek advice and learn from others in the field.

            • Chapters

              00:00 Introduction and Background

              01:30 The Inspiration for the Book

              03:55 The Title of the Book

              04:35 Talent Acquisition Excellence

              05:34 Identifying Bad Talent Acquisition

              08:25 Defining Talent Excellence

              11:21 Chapter by Chapter Overview

              20:21 Global Perspectives on Talent Acquisition

              22:29 Assessing English Proficiency

              23:00 The Future of Talent Acquisition

              23:26 Holistic Talent Management

              24:03 Pre-Hire Assessments

              24:24 Equal Opportunity for Candidates

              24:59 Becoming Talent Partners

              25:21 Debating Hiring Criteria

              26:25 Building Relationships with Hiring Managers

              27:32 Skills Needed for AI in Talent Acquisition

              28:34 Analytical Skills and Data Analysis

              29:34 Ethical Dilemmas in Tech Usage

              30:31 Automation vs. Augmentation

              37:31 Automating Recruitment Tasks

              39:04 The Role of Talent Advisors

              41:01 Best Advice for Recruiters

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              45 min
            • From Shaved Heads to Strategic HR: Navigating Career Wisdom with Donald Knight

              Donald Knight is an industry veteran, currently the Chief People Officer at Greenhouse Software joins us to dissect his rise to leading people at one of the most forward thinking HR and Work Tech companies on the planet. We interrogate Donald (in a nice way) to learn about his upbringing, education, and his career.

              From law school and LSATs to falling in love with understanding why organizations thrive - Donald converts his ridiculously high energy into the conversation that can help to answer some of the question that you may have on career growth and intentionally studying successful leaders.


              Takeaways:

              • Learn with intentions
              • Transitioning to HR can happen unexpectedly, and it is important to be open to new opportunities.
              • Empathy is a crucial skill in HR, as it allows for understanding and support in difficult situations.
              • Difficult conversations and layoffs require empathy and a focus on the overall well-being of employees.
              • Successful CHRO careers often involve intentional career growth, continuous learning, and studying the experiences of other leaders. Seek wisdom from other practitioners and learn from their experiences.
              • Understand and listen to others before sharing your own perspective.
              • Continuously learn and add diverse experiences to enhance your skills.
              • Strive for excellence in HR without being paralyzed by the pursuit of perfection.
              • Find inspiration from youth and media to stay motivated and informed.

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                55 min
              • From Office Manager to CHRO: The Journey of Tricia Shields

                Summary

                In this podcast, Tricia Shields, the Chief Human Resources Officer at Naviant, opens up about her 15-year journey in HR, diving into the unique culture of Wisconsin and her observations on movement's impact on workouts. Tricia also shares her sources of inspiration and networking experiences, highlighting the beauty of the UP alongside HR challenges. She emphasizes the significance of compensation, total rewards, and the influence of parenting on financial literacy. Tricia delves into the AI hype in HR, revealing valuable insights into her career journey and essential HR technology. The conversation wraps up with pivotal moments in Tricia's HR career.


                Takeaways

                • Tricia started her career in office management roles and gradually transitioned into HR.
                • The growth and continuous opportunities at Naviant have kept Tricia engaged and motivated to stay with the company for 15 years.
                • Tricia advises her younger self to be more confident and embrace her unique insights and ideas.
                • The Wisconsin accent is distinct and can vary across different regions. Observing others' movements during workouts can lead to a more intense workout.
                • LinkedIn and peer groups are valuable sources of inspiration and networking for HR professionals.
                • The UP offers beautiful natural resources and seasons.
                • Compensation can include more than just salary, such as benefits and privileges.
                • Financial literacy can be influenced by parenting.
                • AI in HR is adequately hyped.
                • Aligning with the right organization and leadership is crucial for career growth.

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                  Chapters

                  00:00 Introduction and Small Talk

                  03:05 Exploring Milwaukee and Wisconsin

                  06:55 Tricia's Journey in HR

                  09:06 Staying with a Company for 15 Years

                  12:52 Advice for Younger Self

                  14:10 Wisconsin Accent

                  15:33 The Impact of Movement on Workouts

                  16:00 Observing Others' Movements

                  16:12 Finding Inspiration and Networking

                  17:25 Sources of Inspiration

                  18:29 Engaging on LinkedIn

                  19:09 Lurking vs. Contributing on LinkedIn

                  20:12 What Keeps You Up at Night?

                  20:37 The Challenges of HR

                  22:35 Connecting with Remote Employees

                  23:48 The Hardest Part of HR

                  25:28 Compensation and Total Rewards

                  27:23 The Value of Cash in Compensation

                  29:31 The Influence of Parenting on Financial Literacy

                  31:31 The Hype of AI in HR

                  32:57 Career Journey and Moving Forward

                  34:44 The Most Valuable HR Technology

                  36:10 Pivotal Moments in the Journey

                  37:05 Feeling Confident in Having a Voice

                  38:00 Favorite Books and Reading Habits

                  39:15 The Importance of Crucial Conversations

                  40:01 The Challenges of HR Conversations

                  41:37 The Influence of Online Influencers

                  43:39 The Value of Conferences and Webinars

                  45:36 Enhancing the Conference Experience

                  46:18 The Power of Panels in HR Conferences

                  49:21 Creating Uncomfortable Conversations on Panels

                  50:12 Failed Ideas and Learning from Them

                  52:34 Closing Remarks

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                  47 min
                • Mastering People, Process, and Product: Essential Guidance for Building a Thriving People Organization! 🌱

                  Summary

                  In this conversation, Tami Rosen, Chief People Officer at Pagaya, shares insights from her career journey and the different industries she has worked in. She emphasizes the importance of understanding the business you support and building strong relationships with people at all levels. Tami also discusses the need for continuous learning and being open to failure as a means of growth. She ranks people, process, and product, highlighting the significance of having the right people in place. Tami shares her sources of inspiration and offers advice for new graduates and people managers. In this conversation, Tami Rosen discusses her sources of inspiration and how she consumes information from various places. She emphasizes the importance of reading articles, listening to others, and watching what people write about their experiences. Tami also expresses her preference for practitioners' stories and appreciates their authenticity and vulnerability. Additionally, she mentions the influence of social media, particularly LinkedIn and Twitter, in finding different voices and perspectives.


                  Takeaways

                  • Understand the business you support and be able to talk fluently about it.
                  • Build strong relationships with people at all levels of the organization.
                  • Be a constant learner and embrace failure as an opportunity for growth.
                  • Rank people, process, and product, with people being the most important factor. Seek inspiration from various sources and consume information from different places.
                  • Pay attention to practitioners' stories as they provide authentic and vulnerable insights.
                  • Utilize social media platforms like LinkedIn and Twitter to find different voices and perspectives.

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                    Chapters

                    00:00 Introduction and Background

                    01:10 Differences in People Management Across Industries

                    04:19 Career Journey and Unexpected Paths

                    07:47 Finding Your Thrive

                    10:26 Choosing a College and Favorite Course

                    12:52 Transitioning from Pre-Law to HR

                    14:20 Navigating Career Choices and Experimenting

                    17:11 Guidance for New Graduates

                    19:27 Sources of Inspiration

                    22:59 Ranking People, Process, and Product

                    26:57 Successful and Failed Program Rollouts

                    30:35 Span of Control and Building Relationships

                    34:37 Identifying People Who Thrive

                    37:25 Nuggets of Advice for People Managers

                    39:42 Voices That Resonate

                    39:59 Sources of Inspiration

                    41:06 Preference for Practitioners' Stories

                    41:49 Influence of Social Media

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                    46 min
                  • Unlocking HR's Potential: Navigating Talent Acquisition, Transformation, and Skills Revolution with Steve O'Brien

                    Summary

                    In this conversation, Steve O'Brien, Senior Vice President of People Solutions at Syneos Health, discusses the difference between talent acquisition and HR, the target operating model transformation, and programs that went well and didn't go well. He also shares advice for someone starting in the talent game and discusses the characteristics of successful interactions with colleagues and leaders. Additionally, he talks about his reading habits and the importance of methodical thinking. In this conversation, Steve O'Brien discusses his reading habits, the skills revolution in HR, and the difference between skills and competencies.


                    Takeaways

                    • Talent acquisition is a tactical function focused on delivering concrete results, while HR encompasses both tactical and strategic elements.
                    • A target operating model transformation can introduce flexibility and agility into HR, allowing for rapid response to customer needs.
                    • Successful programs often involve informal agreements and a shared vision of what could be true, even if it can't be proven.
                    • Starting in staffing and gaining experience on the supplier side can provide valuable skills and a deep understanding of recruiting fundamentals.
                    • Interactions with colleagues and leaders should involve cooperation, vision casting, and a focus on what can be achieved rather than fault finding.
                    • Methodical thinking and a philosophical background can contribute to effective argumentation and democratic accessibility of ideas. Diversify your reading habits by including both fiction and nonfiction books.
                    • The skills revolution in HR is about moving away from job titles and career paths and focusing on the unique collection of skills that individuals possess.
                    • Skills should inform decision-making in hiring, promotion, and firing.
                    • Skills should be integrated throughout the entire organization to have a real impact.
                    • Skills should not be seen as a reductive view of talent, but rather as a way to enhance decision-making and understanding of individuals.
                    • Three key takeaways from Steve's career: commit to personal excellence, actively seek tough feedback, and invest in continuous learning.

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                      Chapters

                      00:00 Introduction and Background

                      02:50 Difference Between Talent Acquisition and HR

                      06:15 Target Operating Model Transformation

                      09:52 Programs that Went Well and Didn't Go Well

                      19:45 Advice for Someone Starting in the Talent Game

                      25:02 Starting in Staffing and Moving to Corporate Recruiting

                      29:26 Characteristics of Successful Interactions

                      33:53 Thriving with Leaders Above

                      35:13 Philosophy and Methodical Thinking

                      35:47 Reading Habits

                      35:54 Reading Habits

                      37:09 Skills Revolution

                      39:08 Skills vs Competencies

                      40:08 Key Takeaways

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                      45 min

                    About Practitioners Corner

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