Co-author Keith Jones joins Marco for a thoughtful conversation about transformative facilitation and his book Provoke.

In this episode of The Insomnia Project, Marco welcomes Keith Jones to discuss the ideas behind transformative facilitation and the thinking that inspired the book Provoke. Together they explore how facilitation can guide meaningful conversations, encourage collaboration, and create space for new perspectives.

While the topic may sound professional and thought-provoking, the conversation unfolds in the calm and easygoing style that listeners of The Insomnia Project know and love — gentle, meandering discussion designed to help quiet busy thoughts.

Marco and Keith reflect on the role of facilitation in helping groups communicate and grow, all while keeping the tone relaxed and approachable.

The Insomnia Project offers about 26 minutes of mundane conversation meant to help you drift into a state of slumber. Whether you’re settling in for sleep, relaxing during the day, or listening softly in the background while you work, this episode offers a calm listening experience.

Follow along loosely with the discussion — or simply let the voices fade into the background.

And if you don’t make it to the end because you fall asleep, well… you’ve paid us the biggest compliment. 🌙📚

Host: Marco Timpano

Special Guest: Keith Jones

Producers: Drumcast Productions

Theme Music: Royalty Free

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