Speaker 2:                    09:47                You're very hardworking. Like you could tell these skills from people that, and you know I've said this before, I think sometimes these traumas that we experience is good for us. It makes us be a different person. No, you're right. And it's like I think it gives people other abilities to compensate. Yeah. I don't know if you've read outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. It's a great book and it talks about how he built gates and how all these guys kind of work. They were just set up at the right time. They had the right pieces of the puzzle. Yes, and I think a lot of people, and I can't remember the name of the book that I read that talked about people with learning disabilities like Richard Bronson, how he's dyslexic. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, broad sense. This Lexi and I was just trying to Google it right now is too, I think so.

Speaker 2:                    10:33                There's actually a lot of people and there was a book written and more people dyslexic than people know about and there's a lot more people that have learning disabilities that are successful because they're successful. We don't doubt. See that's the point. The point is like these people are very successful. We never doubt that they would have some sort of a disability and because we assume people with disability, they're never going to work out anywhere. They always going to be failures or they're going to be mediocre, average kind of Joe's that are working in this society making minimal salaries and that's it. We never really assume that actually some of these kids have been identified as having learning disability at a younger age and maybe it's somebody like you. That's why I think you're going to be very successful to be honest. I think it's because you have that drive and that where did that drive come from?

Speaker 2:                    11:20                It came from your experience at the beginning where they told you you can do certain things like you're never going to pass with good grade or are commenting about like your imagination was bad for you, which your imagination is not bad for you because now you're putting it into work. And so the idea is is that it's exactly what I'm saying is that you'll never, because automatically successful people, we assume they don't have any disability, disability people, we've already categorize them, right? Disabled people exceeding expectations. It is to see us folks, successful adults with learning disabilities. That was the book and it talks about

Speaker 1:                    12:52                Whereas I could've taken it a different way. I could have gotten all depressed, sad and with some people have and that kind of an expense. Now how old were you? I was like, when did you come to Kuwait? 2005 so I was like 2122 as soon as you came to Kuwait and there was an email that said open psychol

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