Psychoanalysis & You

Psychoanalysis & You Ep. 11 Trauma, Performance Anxiety, and the Healing Power of Music, with Julie Nagel


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Psychoanalysis & You is an APsA podcast about psychoanalysis and everyday life hosted by Dr. Gail Saltz.
We explore the intricacies of psychoanalysis under the guidance of our host, Gail Saltz. Founded in 1911, the American Psychoanalytic Association (APsA) is the oldest national psychoanalytic organization in the nation. APsA is committed to being a professional membership organization for psychoanalysts, psychoanalytic psychotherapists, academics, researchers, students, and other interested people – all whose work is profoundly informed by psychoanalytic theory and values, and to supporting their education and continuing professional development.
Our Host
Our host, Dr. Gail Saltz, is best known for her work as a relationship, family, emotional wellbeing, and mental health contributor in the media where she is a go-to expert for commentary on the mental health aspects of current/breaking issues and news. She is a bestselling author of numerous books. She serves on the public information committee for the American Psychoanalytic Association and for The Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry.
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Our Guest for Episode 11
Julie Jaffee Nagel, Ph.D.  is a clinical psychoanalyst who integrates her education in music and psychoanalysis.  Curious about her  stage fright as a performer, she  pursued her education beyond  2 degrees from Juilliard.  After earning her MSW, MA (psychology) and Ph.D. in both psychology and social work  from the University of Michigan  she graduated from the Michigan Psychoanalytic Institute.  She treats numerous musicians (and others)  for  performance anxiety and career choice.   Her 3 books integrate  music’s value  in mental life (Melodies of the MInd, Rougledge), Managing Stage Fright (Oxford University Press), and  Career Choices in Music Beyond the Pandemic (Rowman and LIttlefield) which she  presented at Juilliard.  Dr. Nagel  promotes  creative outreach beyond the consulting room and concert hall and gives  presentations at psychoanalytic institutes,  music organizations, and the general public.   She Chaired the ApsaA Discussion Group “Psychoanaltic Perspectives on Music” for 14 years,  presented  her original 2- person fantasy theater piece “A Conversation Between Freud and Mozart” at Steinway Hall in New York (2020), and  showed the documentary  “For the Left Hand” ( 2023 ) in the historic State Theater in Ann Arbor, Michigan.  Awards  include  Nautlus Book Award, Distinguished Service Award from the National Conference on Keyboard Pegagogy,  Ticho Award, Karl Menninger Award (ApsaA), and the Nathan Segel Award  from MPI. Her work is endorsed by Joseph Polisi, President Emeritus Juilliard, Arnold Steinhardt, First Violin Guarneri String Quartet, Pianists Leon Fleisher, Pianist and Ruth Slenczynska,, Gary Ingle, CEO Music Teachers National Association (ret). She was interviewed by Harvey Schwartz (Psychoanalysis On and Off the Couch), Gail Saltz (Psychoanalysis and You) and others. Recent  presentations include  #Me Too;  Understanding Oppression, Injustice, and Intolerance Through Music (TAP); Memory Slip: Stage Fright and Performing Musicians (JAPA). Julie Jaffee Nagel is in private practice in Dexter, Michigan,  Website: julienagel.net
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