Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist Andrew Sean Greer speaks to Eve Jackson about the sequel to his bestselling and celebrated novel "Less". "Less is Lost", about the hapless middle-aged gay writer Arthur Less, was a book that his agent told him not to write. Andrew talks about the American road trip that he undertook as a research project for the book, in which he unsuccessfully tried to go incognito. He says he wrote both the "Less" books as a reaction to Donald Trump winning the US presidential election in 2016 and gives us his reaction to the looming Trump-Biden rematch.