Six days before leaving her body, Cari Leversee and her husband Richard spoke with me about their journey together unto death. Cari died the way she had lived- with curiosity and grace, exploring, learning, and teaching every day. Our conversation is both profound and beautiful, and I am honored to have been a conduit through which Cari's wisdom, in her time of dying, can reach a wider audience.

In the intro:

• How some people become exalted beings in their time of dying

In the interview:

• Dying out loud + creating a living funeral

• Approaching death with wonder, & finding love in the face of terror

• Mushrooms & microbes as honored elders / Cari's experience microdosing on psilocybin during the dying process / Mushrooms teach us to lead with soul consciousness, show us how to die, and greatly reduce fear in terminal patients

• Bringing together the love and life and grief and pain and agony of death is where the healing happens

• Grief and love are not different emotions- the depth of love equals the depth of grief

• Home funerals: ecstasy, healing, and community / Alternative options for body disposal- deep sea burial, alkaline hydrolosis (or water cremation), green burial / Casket art

• "I want to go into my death with my arms open"

• What it is like to watch your beloved life partner die, "I have no intention of getting over my grief."

• How our culture gets grief wrong

• I ask Cari if she's afraid

• In death, you recognize the true source of self

In the Outro:

• Cari's passing
• We die how we lived
• More about microdosing

Links:

• Full Circle Living & Dying Collective
• Death Cafe
• Jim Fadiman (microdosing)
• Mythic Medicinals herbals
• Take our fun quiz Which Healing Herb Matches Your Energy?
• Medicine Stories Facebook Group
• Medicine Stories Patreon