This week on Valley of Depth, we’re joined by Marc Allen, CEO of Electra and former Chief Strategy Officer at Boeing. After nearly two decades at one of aerospace’s most iconic companies, Marc stepped away—and then doubled down—on aviation with a bold bet: a hybrid-electric aircraft that takes off in 150 feet, carries 1,000 pounds, and can land almost anywhere.

In this episode, Marc breaks down why the future of flight is short-runway, low-noise, and mission-flexible—and how Electra’s EL-9 is carving out a new category of aircraft entirely. We also get into:

• Why hybrid-electric beats all-electric
• How Electra won over DOD and NASA
• The military’s growing demand for quiet, flexible airlift
• Why rotorcraft are ripe for disruption
• The company’s $13B+ order book
• And how Marc thinks about scaling from Boeing to startup

• Chapters •

0:00 - Episode Introduction

0:58 - Marc's Transition: Boeing to Electra

3:13 - Electric Propulsion Breakthrough Moment

4:29 - Electra's Core Technology

5:17 - Importance of Electric Aircraft

6:52 - EL9 vs Helicopter Comparison

7:30 - Safety Features

10:06 - Automation Capabilities

10:54 - Charging Infrastructure

11:18 - Technology Maturity Level

12:41 - EL9 Market Potential

15:57 - Current Demand & Use Cases

18:17 - Operator Economics

20:20 - Air Force Partnership

21:16 - Defense Applications

23:43 - Autonomous Potential

24:41 - Future Aircraft Versions

26:08 - NASA's Interest

26:47 - Civil vs Defense Models

27:21 - Manufacturing Process

29:15 - Certification Timeline

31:32 - Key Challenges

34:24 - Fundraising Status

36:32 - Commercialization Costs

38:00 - Upcoming Milestones

38:24 - Team Size

39:03 - Scaling From Large to Small Company

41:15 - OEM Strategy

41:50 - 10-Year Vision

42:44 - Marc's Personal Interests

43:40 - Pilot Training Requirements

• Show notes •

Electra’s socials — https://x.com/ElectraAero

Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam

Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace

Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  

https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/

Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/

Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/

• About us •

Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.

•  Payload: www.payloadspace.com
• Ignition: www.ignition-news.com
• Tectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com