Dr. Shira Leibowitz, author, university doctorial professor and pre-school/childcare founder, shares insights from her new book, "Havens of Hope: Ideas For Redesigning Education From the Covid-19 Pandemic." She describes how a crisis can be a catalyst, accelerator, anchor or sculptor. The questions “Why hope?” and “Why redesign?” are explored. Visit the Discovery Village Childcare and Preschool website.  Visit the Revabilities website.

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