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For decades, careers have been framed as a linear path, one that builds, peaks, and then winds down. But what if that model no longer reflects how we live and work today?
In this episode of The Next Chapter, Pauline James, CEO of Anchor HR, speaks with Dr. Suzanne Cook, a Canadian social gerontologist and adult educator whose research is reshaping how we understand later-life careers. At the heart of the conversation is her concept of “redirection”, a stage where individuals transition into new, meaningful work in the second half of life rather than stepping away from it entirely.
Drawing on her research and real-world insights, Dr. Cook explains how people are navigating this shift, often independently, seeking both purpose and income. While some are driven by a desire for fulfillment, others continue working out of financial necessity, revealing a complex and evolving picture of today’s workforce.
The discussion also surfaces the realities behind these transitions. Redirection is rarely quick or straightforward; it can take months or even years, requiring resilience, new skills, and significant personal investment. At the same time, systemic challenges, particularly ageism, continue to limit opportunities for experienced workers, highlighting the need for organizations to rethink how they attract, support, and retain talent across all career stages.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Whether you’re an HR leader, people manager, or simply reflecting on your own next chapter, this episode will challenge assumptions and open new ways of thinking about work and life at every stage.
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For decades, careers have been framed as a linear path, one that builds, peaks, and then winds down. But what if that model no longer reflects how we live and work today?
In this episode of The Next Chapter, Pauline James, CEO of Anchor HR, speaks with Dr. Suzanne Cook, a Canadian social gerontologist and adult educator whose research is reshaping how we understand later-life careers. At the heart of the conversation is her concept of “redirection”, a stage where individuals transition into new, meaningful work in the second half of life rather than stepping away from it entirely.
Drawing on her research and real-world insights, Dr. Cook explains how people are navigating this shift, often independently, seeking both purpose and income. While some are driven by a desire for fulfillment, others continue working out of financial necessity, revealing a complex and evolving picture of today’s workforce.
The discussion also surfaces the realities behind these transitions. Redirection is rarely quick or straightforward; it can take months or even years, requiring resilience, new skills, and significant personal investment. At the same time, systemic challenges, particularly ageism, continue to limit opportunities for experienced workers, highlighting the need for organizations to rethink how they attract, support, and retain talent across all career stages.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
Whether you’re an HR leader, people manager, or simply reflecting on your own next chapter, this episode will challenge assumptions and open new ways of thinking about work and life at every stage.
Support the show
Feature Your Brand on the HRchat Podcast
The HRchat show has had 100,000s of downloads and is frequently listed as one of the most popular global podcasts for HR pros, Talent execs and leaders. It is ranked in the top ten in the world based on traffic, social media followers, domain authority & freshness. The podcast is also ranked as the Best Canadian HR Podcast by FeedSpot and one of the top 10% most popular shows by Listen Score.
Want to share the story of how your business is helping to shape the world of work? We offer sponsored episodes, audio adverts, email campaigns, and a host of other options. Check out packages here.

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