In this episode of the Pacey Performance Podcast, Head of Sports Science at Everton FC, Jack Nayler. Jack comes on the podcast having spent the last 10 years at Chelsea, PSG, Real Madrid, Celtic and Everton. An incredible CV that many in the industry would love to have. So we dive into what he has learnt from working at these huge clubs with the huge players that play for them.

Jack reflects on his experiences working with players, noting that some have an innate understanding of their bodies and their limits. He believes it's essential to recognize and trust those players who have this insight. Jack also underscores the importance of communication, teaching players to understand their bodies better, and always being observant.

He recounts his time with Alvaro Arbeloa at Real Madrid, emphasizing Arbeloa's exceptional drive and commitment to training even when not in the starting lineup. Jack admires such players for their unwavering motivation, even if they don't possess the same natural talent as others.

Moreover, Jack touches upon the psychological aspect, mentioning how players, despite their fame and success, still face significant pressures and stresses. He believes it's crucial to understand and address these stresses to optimize performance. He also discusses the presence of ego in some players, viewing it as a factor that often contributes to their success.

In Jack's perspective, footballers operate on a level of talent and drive far beyond most people's experiences, and to work effectively with them, one has to approach them at their level instead of expecting them to come down.

Main talking points:

• Complex systems when working in football