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Reimagining Neurodiversity: From Isolation to Interaction


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What if your child’s unique way of seeing the world could be their greatest strength? Join us for a heartwarming dive into neurodivergence and the environments that help everyone thrive. Our guest, Sarah Kernion, founder and CEO of Saturday's Story, is a global keynote speaker and neurodiversity advocate. She’s also a mother of three, including two children with non-speaking autism. Sarah believes in “choosing interaction over isolation,” a lesson she drew from John Boyd’s briefing, "The Strategic Game of ? and ?."

Sarah shares her “Inchstones” (versus milestones) philosophy, which celebrates small but meaningful steps. She challenges traditional thinking, showing how everyday progress can lead to big breakthroughs. Her work shines a light on the strengths of neurodivergent individuals, like hyper-focus and pattern recognition. These talents can drive innovation in business and education.

We’ll also explore how augmentative communication devices and sensory-friendly spaces create more connection. Sarah explains "stimming" behaviors and how they help autistic individuals process their world. We discuss how support systems and psychological safety unlock neurodivergent potential, giving businesses an edge.

This episode challenges outdated thinking. We look at how flexible work environments and customized learning paths can help neurodivergent people thrive. Inspired by John Boyd’s ideas, Sarah shows us the power of interaction over isolation. Together, we can build a world that values every mind's cognitive diversity.

You can learn more about Sarah and her work at www.saturdaysstory.com. You can also follow her journey on her Instagram, @saturdaysstory. 

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