For decades, the developer terminal has remained largely unchanged. But for Warp CEO and co-founder Zach Lloyd, reinventing this core tool is the key to unlocking AI agents for coding, debugging, and automating the entire development process. Zach joins Elad Gil to discuss how seeing this opportunity for innovation led to Warp’s agentic terminal for developers. Zach talks about the phases of software development, from coding by hand to the current "develop by prompt" era, and the coming age of fully automated development. Plus, Zach and Elad explore the deep philosophical questions around intelligence versus consciousness in AI models, and what it would take to believe a computer program is truly aware.

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Chapters:

00:00 – Zach Lloyd Introduction

00:32 – AI, Intelligence, and Consciousness

06:55 – What Warp Does

07:38 – Benefits of the Terminal as a Launchpoint 

08:27 – Features Driving Warp’s Adoption

09:12 – Zach’s View of the Coding Market

10:27 – Evolution of Coding Development

12:45 – Importance of Senior Engineer Expertise

14:11 – Future of Security and Other Dev Tools

22:22 – Why Zach Focused on the Terminal

23:52 – The Future of the Model Layer 

25:36 – What Zach’s Excited About in the AI Dev World

27:18 – Conclusion