Relai Bitcoin Podcast

British HODL is an ex-gold, ex-real estate, and ex-equities investor who has now shifted his focus onto Bitcoin. He is one of the most active and vocal accounts on X, often breaking down the latest news with sharp focus and detailed explanations.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, he discusses Bitcoin's current place in the traditional financial landscape, why Bitcoin businesses need to adapt, what changes ETFs and Bitcoin-backed products have brought, and why he remains bullish on the future.

You can follow British HODL on X: https://x.com/BritishHodl

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

03:04 - Real estate repricing instead of a crash

07:03 - Bitcoin as collateral for investors

12:26 - Why the U.S. may favor a new monetary asset over gold

16:00 - Money printing, GDP growth, and the U.S. Dollar

18:05 - Learning from wealthy people still building wealth

24:01 - Bitcoin’s changing investor base

30:27 - Generating income from Bitcoin exposure

36:18 - The role of self-custody in today's Bitcoin economy

41:27 - Philosophical businesses versus profitable businesses

48:44 - Institutional custody and the need of large holders

51:35 - British HODL’s advice for Relai

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Disclaimer: Relai EU SASU holds an authorisation as a crypto-asset service provider under the MiCA Regulation, granted by the French financial markets authority AMF, and serves clients in the European Union on that basis. Clients resident in Switzerland and Liechtenstein are served by Relai AG, which is affiliated as a financial intermediary with the VQF, a self-regulatory organisation recognised by FINMA under the Anti-Money Laundering Act.

Richard Byworth is the managing partner at BYZ Partners, a board member at Relai (full disclosure), has worked in the financial services industry for over two decades, and is one of the most active Bitcoin educators or media representatives out there.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Richard talks about his past in the financial world, how he got so hooked on Bitcoin, how he sees the recent price development, the impact sovereign debt will have, and what to expect in 2027.

You can follow Richard on X: https://x.com/RichardByworth

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:45 - Richard’s background in TradFi

04:55 - Bitcoin’s sudden price rebound

09:41 - Seller exhaustion and what’s next

16:47 - The U.S. bond market situation

21:23 - Bitcoin-backed products in the wild

28:51 - Is this price rally healthy and sustainable?

33:11 - Strategy’s cash reserves and Bitcoin strategy

37:33 - Why Bitcoin investors need a cash reserve

42:23 - Bitcoin as money and working capital

46:20 - Richard’s Bitcoin position in the portfolio

48:32 - Outro

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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Disclaimer: Relai EU SASU holds an authorisation as a crypto-asset service provider under the MiCA Regulation, granted by the French financial markets authority AMF, and serves clients in the European Union on that basis. Clients resident in Switzerland and Liechtenstein are served by Relai AG, which is affiliated as a financial intermediary with the VQF, a self-regulatory organisation recognised by FINMA under the Anti-Money Laundering Act.

Sander Andersen is the Executive Chairman and Co-Founder of H100 Group, the largest European bitcoin treasury company. They recently went through a series of mergers and acquisitions, bringing their total BTC holdings to 3,506 on the balance sheet.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Sander talks about his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to co-found the H100 Group, why family offices should be orange-pilled, and where he sees Bitcoin heading in Europe.

You can follow Sander on X: https://x.com/Sanderandersenn

And visit H100 Group’s website here: https://www.h100.group/

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

06:03 - Family offices and Bitcoin adoption

11:10 - Bitcoin, neutrality, and generational wealth

16:00 - Why Bitcoin needs financialization

21:05 - From self-custody to Bitcoin equity

26:08 - H100’s transformation into a Bitcoin treasury company

30:55 - Bitcoin-for-Bitcoin acquisitions and deal-making

36:20 - Earning more Bitcoin per share

41:05 - The future of Bitcoin treasury companies in Europe

44:25 - Sander’s personal Bitcoin allocation and closing thoughts

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

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Connect with us:

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Disclaimer: Relai EU SASU holds an authorisation as a crypto-asset service provider under the MiCA Regulation, granted by the French financial markets authority AMF, and serves clients in the European Union on that basis. Clients resident in Switzerland and Liechtenstein are served by Relai AG, which is affiliated as a financial intermediary with the VQF, a self-regulatory organisation recognised by FINMA under the Anti-Money Laundering Act.

Robin Seyr is the host of the Robin Seyr show and one of the hardest-working Bitcoin creators in the space. He is on the brink of reaching 900 episodes on this podcast and will eventually even hit 1,000 episodes later this year.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Robin talks about his podcast growth, why he decided to double down on English content as a German native speaker. Where he sees the community is heading and what all the fuss is about with Strategy.

You can follow Robin on X: https://x.com/RobinSeyr

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:53 - Why Robin built in English instead of German

11:47 - Entrepreneurial journey and first monetization

16:53 - Meeting Michael Saylor and setting up the main topic

19:32 - Robin's view on Strategy, Bitcoin, and the treasury model

33:38 - Is Strategy in trouble, or following the plan?

35:59 - Common equity Bitcoin exposure and why Robin isn't worried

43:27 - Bitcoin in self-custody vs. Strategy vs. Stretch

45:10 - Closing thoughts on scale and Bitcoin's role

48:55 - Outro

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Michael Saylor is the founder and chairman of Strategy, formerly MicroStrategy. He is the permanent Bitcoin bull and best known for having turned around his firm with Bitcoin into a $100 billion company.

In this live conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Michael discussed his path as an entrepreneur, what he would do today to start a new company, why Bitcoin is so vital for Strategy, and what digital credit actually is.

The interview was recorded at BTC Prague. Make sure to grab your tickets for next year! https://btcprague.com/

You can follow Michael on X: https://x.com/saylor

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:25 - How were the early days of Strategy?

18:03 - What would Michael do as a founder today?

35:28 - What happens to Strategy if Bitcoin goes down another 50%?

49:37 - Why did Strategy sell 32 Bitcoin?

59:49 - What would Michael say to people calling the company a systemic risk to Bitcoin?

01:09:35 - Outro

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Jeff Booth is the author of “Price of Tomorrow” and one of the most well-known voices in the Bitcoin community. He’s also the Founding Partner at Ego Death Capital, a venture fund that supports Bitcoin companies. Full disclosure: Relai is a portfolio company of Ego Death Capital.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Jeff discusses his take on the current Bitcoin market, why people, even die-hard Bitcoiners, are still pricing Bitcoin wrong, what effect the bear market has on you as an investor, and where things are going from here.

You can follow Jeff on X: https://x.com/JeffBooth

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

00:30 - Navigating the Bitcoin bear market

08:18 - Understanding Bitcoin’s role in the financial system

16:25 - The illusion of wealth and the reality of money

24:21 - Bitcoin and the investment in the tech of the future

27:04 - Outro

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Matyáš Kuchař is the co-founder of BTC Prague, Europe’s biggest Bitcoin-only conference. Relai will also be a part of the event with our own booth and speakers. Not only is it a great event to attend because of Matyáš, but it’s also the place to learn more about Bitcoin.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Matyáš discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he and his brother decided to launch BTC Prague, how the conference is doing 4 years in, and how the landscape surrounding Bitcoin has changed in the Czech Republic.

You can follow Matyas on X: https://x.com/Matyas44Cook

Book a ticket for BTC Prague and use code RELAI for 10% off: https://btcprague.com/

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

03:10 - The ripple effect of Bitcoin on society

06:17 - Europe’s current state and prospects

09:13 - Decentralization and the role of entrepreneurship

12:11 - Navigating the future with Bitcoin and technology

15:12 - The Bitcoin adoption in the Czech Republic

18:13 - Why community and networking are key for Bitcoin

21:15 - Highlights of the BTC Prague conference and what to expect

27:16 - Matyáš's personal Bitcoin experience and where to go next

30:18 - Conclusion, and final thought for viewers

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter

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Connect with us:

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Danny Scott is the co-founder of Coincorner, a prominent Bitcoin exchange from the Isle of Man with a keen focus on Lightning, and the Chief Bitcoin Officer and co-founder of B HODL, where he drives institutional Bitcoin adoption through the treasury playbook.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Danny discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to launch Coincorner and its Lightning Network integration, the challenges he faced with it, and why he decided to co-found a Bitcoin treasury company focused on native BTC yield.

You can follow Danny on X: https://x.com/CoinCornerDanny

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:21 - Regulatory developments and the Isle of Man's pioneering AML compliance

04:47 - The decline of initial experiments with multiple coins and focus on Bitcoin

07:17 - Is Bitcoin still early? Perspectives from long-term holders

08:44 - Bitcoin’s adoption as a long-term store of value versus quick gains

10:37 - Comparing Bitcoin to the Internet and telecommunications infrastructure

14:02 - The potential for nation-state interventions and protocol changes

18:19 - Upcoming challenges: forks, governance, and institutional influences

20:24 - Current market sentiment, sideways trading, and long-term buying patterns

22:57 - Insights into Bitcoin treasury strategies and market influence

26:37 - The diminishing selling pressure from long-term Bitcoin holders

33:00 - Fundamentals of Bitcoin and its resilience through volatility

35:12 - Final thoughts on driving Bitcoin adoption and future industry developments

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter

👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/

Connect with us:

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Brad Mills is a lifelong entrepreneur focused on product development and marketing. He has been involved with bitcoin since 2011 as a miner, entrepreneur, and investor, where Relai is one of his investments. He is very active on X and constantly orange-pilling his audience.

In this conversation with Relai CEO Julian Liniger, Brad discusses his journey into Bitcoin, his fascination with citadels, and why he decided to engage more with the community. He also goes down the rabbit hole of his health developments and why this taught him a lot about life and Bitcoin.

You can follow Brad on X: https://x.com/bradmillscan

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

03:08 - Brad's due diligence and investment philosophy

06:15 - Personal growth and mindset shift

12:03 - Building a citadel mind and body

21:01 - Consistency and daily habits

28:42 - The journey of Brad's transformation

34:54 - Brad's battle of identities and self-reflection

41:47 - The lighthouse effect and what it teaches you

45:52 - Rethinking personal connections and relationships

49:27 - Highs and lows throughout life and Bitcoin

53:07 - Becoming the person and Bitcoiner you want to be

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

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🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter

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Connect with us:

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Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.

Stephan Livera is the host of the Stephan Livera Podcast and one of the most prominent Bitcoin podcasters in the space. He's also actively advising Bitcoin companies and is always a keen voice for Bitcoin debates on X.

In this conversation with Relai CEO, Julian Liniger, Stephan discusses his journey into Bitcoin, why he decided to move to Dubai, how the MENA region is growing, when Bitcoin will become a medium of exchange, and how macro is influencing Bitcoin today.

You can follow Stephan on X: https://x.com/stephanlivera

And subscribe to his podcast here: https://stephanlivera.com/

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⏱ Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

02:30 - Stephan's journey into Bitcoin

05:00 - Experiences in Switzerland

06:11 - Bitcoin Adoption in Japan

09:13 - Dubai, the MENA region, and Bitcoin

15:00 - The tensions between Bitcoin and TradFi

17:57 - Medium of exchange adoption

20:00 - Institutional adoption and Bitcoin

23:51 - Rebalancing Bitcoin holdings

27:30 - Market Sentiment and price fluctuations

35:13 - Macro factors influencing Bitcoin's adoption

38:40 - Current landscape of Bitcoin treasury companies

43:00 - Outlook and Stephan's Bitcoin allocation

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The opinions expressed on the show are the opinions of the individual guests and may not reflect the opinions of Relai. The information on the podcast may be changed without notice, and is not guaranteed to be correct, complete or up-to-date.

--

🎓 Get Smarter About Bitcoin:

🧠 Free Bitcoin Mini‑Course: https://relai.app/21-bitcoin-basics/

📥 Free Weekly Bitcoin Newsletter: https://relai.app/newsletter

👀 Need help? Send us a message: https://support.relai.app/en/

Connect with us:

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LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/relai

Disclaimer: Relai is authorized to provide crypto-asset services in Switzerland and across the European Union under the MiCA regulatory framework. The company is actively expanding its services to EU member states following the completion of passporting notifications.