Remote, Hybrid, Return to Office—there are so many ways to work in 2025, and as the debate in popular media rages on it can feel utterly overwhelming to know how and where we actually work best.

To help us wade through the mess of public discourse, and cut to the facts, we sat down with Stanford University Professor of Economics Nicolas Bloom whose research spans global geographies and focuses on helping us understand work from home, hybrid and office-based work, along with management best practices and uncertainty.

And the answer to ‘what is the best way to work’? It’s kind of complicated.

In this conversation we explore why work is complicated, and Nick presents his research on how hybrid work, done well, is the best answer we’ve currently got.

We hope this conversation with Professor Nick Bloom will debunk some of your misconceptions around where and how we can work best. Nick’s research presents a compelling case for hybrid work, but even more importantly than simply mandating this, is making sure that the coordination of hybrid work is done well, getting clear on what work should be done together, and being explicit on performance metrics, such as outputs over desk monitoring is crucial in making time in the officer, together count.

Want to learn more about Professor Nick Bloom and find his research, visit our shownotes: www.wearehumanleaders.com/podcast/remote-hybrid-office-professor-nick-bloom

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