Thru hiker, photographer, and outdoor apparel manufacturer James "Magnet" Parsons sits down to catch up with Doc. Magnet, who dropped out of the 9-5 rat race to pursue a life based on the outdoors, covers a lot of ground in his discussion with Doc, including his own personal research, the Alpha Fleece, auto shop teachers, concept trails, the West Highland Way, new verbs, the Arizona Trail, Peroni's, mashed potato snow, a new type of trail angel, and the difference between thru hikers and ultramarathoners.