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Sam who asked me not to use his last name for fear that he will get kicked out of his current church, tells his story of navigating evangelical Christianity as a biblical unitarian. He shares two sad stories of excommunication from a college ministry and a local church. As you might suspect, this harsh treatment drove Sam to question his non-trinitarian beliefs. Even though he had every reason to abandon his unorthodox convictions, his research into bible, theology, and history strengthened his faith that the Father of Jesus is the only true God. Now he has a YouTube channel where he interviews theologians and recently he debated Chris Date on Preston Sprinkle's Theology in the Raw podcast.

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Pastor Jeff Deuble of the Churches of Christ in Sydney, Australia shares his journey to uncover the genuine Jesus from scripture alone. After his brother Greg challenged him to understand Christ from a Jewish perspective, Jeff set out on a quest, reading through all of scripture to see what it really said about the Messiah. What he found upended his life, bringing both delight at his clearer understanding of Christ and heartbreak over losing the church he planted and pastored for 19 years. This is his story.

Here are some of the questions that caused Deuble to doubt the "traditional" understanding of Christ taught in the creeds:

• How can you have a singular God who is also plural?  How can you explain three “persons”, who constitute one “being”?
• How can Jesus be both “fully human” and “fully God”?  How does that work?
• How can Jesus be eternal, yet “begotten” by God? 
• The Bible says that “God cannot be tempted” but Jesus was tempted – in fact “in every way, just as we are” (Hebrews 4 says)
• We know “God alone is immortal” and therefore unable to die (Rom 1:23; 1Tim 6:16) yet Jesus was died, and was raised to life again by the Father. 
• We read that “no one has seen, or can see” God (1Tim 6:16) - that “no one has ever seen God” (Jn 1:18; 1Jn 4:12) yet Jesus was seen.
• God “knows everything” (1 Jn 3:26) yet Jesus himself admitted there were things that his Father knew that he himself did not (Mt 24:36; Mk 13:32).
• Why would “all authority in heaven and on earth” have to be given to him (Mt 28:18)?  Wouldn’t this already be his by virtue of him being God?
• If Jesus is God, how can he have a God over him (Which Paul clearly states is the case on many occasions, especially in 1 Cor 15)

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• Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments
• Get in touch with Jeff Deuble via email: [email protected]
• Check out the interview with Greg Deuble (Jeff's brother) They Never Told Me This in Church
• More interviews with those who studied their way out of the Trinity
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This is the second part of a conversation where Jerry Wierwille challenges Brandon Duke's soul-making theodicy. In particular, Wierwille raises the following questions:

1. Why is hiddenness and epistemic distance considered a necessity for moral development considering the biblical examples where people experienced God and still retained their ability to make real moral choices either to obey or reject him?
2. How can the four Ds (death, decay, deprivation, and damage) be considered good when scripture calls death itself God's enemy?
3. Considering that evil and suffering are not 100% effective in bringing about moral development and are in some cases even deleterious to that end, how can soul-making work as a thoroughgoing theodicy?

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• Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments
• Get in touch with Brandon Duke on his website: TruthBorn
• See other episodes with Jerry Wierwille
• Get in touch with Wierwille at his website
• More episodes and posts about the problem of evil and suffering
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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In our last two episodes, Brandon Duke laid out his way of answering the question of why God allows so much suffering in our world. He did so by putting forward a modified version of the late John Hick's soul-making theodicy. In this episode, Jerry Wierwille pushes back on a few issues with soul-making, preferring instead a classic free will theodicy. First we'll see how Duke's version of soul-making differs from John Hick's then we'll examine how soul-making lines up with the four major elements of the biblical meta-narrative: creation, fall, redemption, and restoration. Lastly we'll discuss whether moral improvement necessitates suffering.

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• Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments
• Michael Murray vs. Phil Harper on Unbelievable, discussing "Animal Suffering and God"
• Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy entry on John Hick
• See Sean Finnegan's atonement research, outlining seven major views Christians have taken over the centuries
• Get in touch with Brandon Duke on his website: TruthBorn
• See other episodes with Jerry Wierwille
• Get in touch with Wierwille at his website
• More episodes and posts about the problem of evil and suffering
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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In part one, Brandon Duke laid out some of the important groundwork for thinking about how a good and powerful God might have a world capable of experiencing immense amounts of evil and suffering. In our conversation today, we'll delve further into the idea of soul-making to explain why suffering like death, damage, decay, and deprivation along with the limitation of God's hiddenness are necessary conditions for a world where authentic moral decisions occur and human development becomes possible.

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• God and the Problem of Evil: Five Views by Chad Meister, James Dew Jr.
• Divine Foreknowledge: Four Views by Gregory Boyd, David Hunt, William Craig, Paul Helm
• The Triumph of God over Evil by William Hasker
• Four Views on Divine Providence by Paul Helseth, William Craig, Ron Highfield, Gregory Boyd
• Divine Hiddenness: New Essays by Daniel Howard-Snyder, Paul Moser

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• Leave a voice message via SpeakPipe with questions or comments
• Get in touch with Brandon Duke on his website: TruthBorn
• Check out Duke’s videos at the Unitarian Christian Alliance YouTube Channel
• Watch Duke’s Trinity debate
• Also check out this six part series on various theories of divine foreknowledge, including Calvinism, Arminianism, and Open Theism.
• More episodes and posts about the problem of evil and suffering
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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If God is so good and powerful, why is there so much evil in our world? Although you might retort, "It's because humanity fell into sin and we are all suffering the consequences." Such an answer merely pushes the question back one step, since God is the one who determined just how fallen our world would become once sin entered the picture. Why doesn't he allow more suffering or less? What are his aims in having the world be how it actually is? Why doesn't he intervene more to stop harm? Brandon Duke has wrestled with this question extensively and today he'll provide a lay of the land to help you think through the issue. He breaks up the problem into three categories (1) human evil, (2) natural suffering, and (3) God's hiddenness. Today he'll cover a number of presuppositions about God's knowledge that play into how we approach evil as well as what God's objectives are that he ultimately will bring to pass.

Here is the full John Hick quote that Duke paraphrased in this episode:

"We can imagine a paradise in which no one can ever come to any harm.  Instead of having its own fixed structure, the world would be plastic to human wishes.  Or perhaps the world would have a fixed structure, and hence the possibility of damage and pain, but a structure that is whenever necessary suspended or adjusted by special divine action to avoid human pain. Thus, for example, in such a miraculously pain-free world, one who falls accidentally from a high building would presumably float unharmed to the ground; bullets would become insubstantial when fired at a human body; poison would cease to be poison; water to drown, and so on.  We can at least begin to imagine such a world, but... a world in which there can be no pain or suffering would also be one without moral choices and hence no possibility of moral growth and development. For in a situation in which no one can ever suffer injury or be liable to pain or suffering, no distinction would exist between right and wrong action.  No action would be morally wrong, because no actions could ever have harmful consequences; likewise, no action would be morally right in contrast to wrong.  Whatever the values of such a world, its structure would not serve the purpose of allowing its inhabitants to develop from self regarding animality to self giving love."

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• God and the Problem of Evil: Five Views by Chad Meister, James Dew Jr.
• Divine Foreknowledge: Four Views by Gregory Boyd, David Hunt, William Craig, Paul Helm
• The Triumph of God over Evil by William Hasker
• Four Views on Divine Providence by Paul Helseth, William Craig, Ron Highfield, Gregory Boyd
• Divine Hiddenness: New Essays by Daniel Howard-Snyder, Paul Moser

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• Get in touch with Brandon Duke on his website: TruthBorn
• Check out Duke's videos at the Unitarian Christian Alliance YouTube Channel
• Watch Duke's Trinity debate
• Also check out this six part series on various theories of divine foreknowledge, including Calvinism, Arminianism, and Open Theism.
• More episodes and posts about the problem of evil and suffering
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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When Joshua Anderson left home and attended a secular college, the environment bombarded him with skepticism and criticism of Christianity.  He internalized the general attitude manifested on campus from professors, students, and text books to such a degree that he began doubting his faith.  He fell into a two year period of existential despair as he desperately read book after book trying to find satisfying answers to his nagging anxieties about Christianity.  In this episode he shares how he was able to escape his dark night of the soul and reclaim his walk with God.  If you've ever struggled with your own doubts about God's existence or the bible's veracity, or the Christian worldview, this episode will help you understand the mental forces at work as well as the limits of absolute certainty.

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• More Joshua Anderson podcasts
• See Anderson's 5 part evangelism class, called "Announcing the Kingdom"
• Visit Anderson’s website Pascal’s Jacket
• More episodes about doubt
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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I love hearing people's stories--especially people of faith. In this episode you'll get to know Bob Jones, a professor at the Atlanta Bible College. He's equally adept teaching chemistry or physics as he is Old Testament or Systematic Theology. Now in his seventies, Jones looks back on his life to see how God led him through it all, even in the darkest of times.

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• To get in touch with Bob Jones, you can email him at [email protected]
• Check out his distance learning classes at the Atlanta Bible College
• If you’d like to support Restitutio, you can donate here.
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Although powerful preaching, serving the poor, and missionary work often take the lime light in Christian ministry, the truth is that home groups, churches, and especially denominations will fall to pieces without competent and consistent administrators. The job isn't glitzy or glamorous and it is often beset with equal parts of tedium, stress, and failure, but without it nothing gets done--or at least not for long. Meet David Krogh, a faithful servant who who has found himself in roles ranging from pastor to executive director in a denomination to academic dean of a bible college. Over more than five decades of ministry, Krogh has been involved with countless decisions that have made the Church of God General Conference what it is today.

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• More about David Krogh on the staff page for the Atlanta Bible College
• See also the main website of the Church of God General Conference
• Learn more about the missions organization: Lord's Harvest International
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We’re delving into a topic rife with controversy, polarization, and intense emotion.  We’re asking the question, how should bible-based Christians respond to the Black Lives Matter movement.  No doubt, some of you will answer that we should all be out marching in full support while others think BLM is itself racist and should be resisted.  Of course, between these two extremes are many more options for responding to this.  In order to navigate our way through the choppy seas of this issue, I’ve invited on Russell Brown who offers an interesting perspective, since he finds himself at the intersection of all three camps.

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