In today’s Pathfinder podcast, host Mo Islam chats with cofounder and CEO of True Anomaly, Even Rogers. Before founding True Anomaly, Even held a number of different space jobs, including Air Force space operations officer, where he helped lay the foundation for the establishment of the Space Force. While serving, he witnessed a shift within the space community from focusing on counterinsurgency operations to addressing vulnerabilities and threats in space systems amid the rise of China. 

True Anomaly develops spacecraft and software solutions to make space a protected harbor for the US and its allies. They are focusing on offering: operational testing, responsive operations, and space domain awareness. 

Even and Mo talk about the story behind True Anomaly, deterrence in space, and transitioning from the military to Silicon Valley. They also discuss: 

• True Anomaly’s product suite 
• Striking the right balance of former military personnel and engineers 
• Jackal’s demo mission this fall 
• Why VC investors are backing defense companies 
• Security and data integrity in space 

And much more… 

This episode is brought to you by SpiderOak, a US-based software company that builds space cybersecurity products and solutions for civilian, military, and commercial space operations. Learn more at https://spideroak.com/ 

• Chapters • 

00:00 - Intro and ad 

01:50 - Even's journey from the military to Silicon Valley 

08:48 - True Anomaly overview 

12:12 - How did you pick your initial team? 

13:34 - Product overview and roadmap 

16:18 - Upcoming demo mission 

19:07 - Current and future clients 

21:43 - Key metric: cost per maneuver 

25:24 - Autonomy and AI 

28:20 - Security and data integrity 

30:00 - SpiderOak ad break 

30:48 - DoD's focus: "tactical and responsive" 

33:36 - Vertical integration of True Anomaly 

34:23 - Team construction and bridging skill gaps 

38:25 - What has changed in the VC market for space startups? 

44:37 - Deterrence theory in space 

48:52 - Other veteran owned space companies 

49:56 - Why Denver? 

• Show notes • 

True Anomaly's website — https://www.trueanomaly.space/

True Anomaly's socials — https://twitter.com/The_TrueAnomaly 

Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam 

Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace 

Pathfinder archive — Watch: https://www.youtube.com/@payloadspace Pathfinder archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes 

• About us • 

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