Ricky Wilson and Simon Rix of Kaiser Chiefs talk with Kyle Meredith about their comeback moment on Education, Education, Education & War—finding purpose again after lineup changes, learning not to play it safe, and rediscovering the joy of being a band that still has something to say. Cut to three years later, and Norman Blake of Teenage Fanclub joins Kyle just as Brexit breaks, reflecting on optimism, aging gracefully in rock, and crafting Here, an album about love and contentment in uncertain times. Two bands from the same Britpop class proving there’s life—and wisdom—on the other side of the hype.

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