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Robin Hanson is a legend in the rationality community and one of my biggest intellectual influences.
In 2008, he famously debated Eliezer Yudkowsky about AI doom via a sequence of dueling blog posts known as the great Hanson-Yudkowsky Foom Debate. This debate picks up where Hanson-Yudkowsky left off, revisiting key arguments in the light of recent AI advances.
My position is similar to Eliezer's: P(doom) is on the order of 50%. Robin's position is shockingly different: P(doom) is below 1%.
00:00 Announcements
03:18 Debate Begins
05:41 Discussing AI Timelines and Predictions
19:54 Economic Growth and AI Impact
31:40 Outside Views vs. Inside Views on AI
46:22 Predicting Future Economic Growth
51:10 Historical Doubling Times and Future Projections
54:11 Human Brain Size and Economic Metrics
57:20 The Next Era of Innovation
01:07:41 AI and Future Predictions
01:14:24 The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
01:16:27 AI Foom
01:28:15 Genetics and Human Brain Evolution
01:29:24 The Role of Culture in Human Intelligence
01:31:36 Brain Size and Intelligence Debate
01:33:44 AI and Goal-Completeness
01:35:10 AI Optimization and Economic Impact
01:41:50 Feasibility of AI Alignment
01:55:21 AI Liability and Regulation
02:05:26 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up
Robin's links:
Twitter: x.com/RobinHanson
Home Page: hanson.gmu.edu
Robin’s top related essays:
* What Are Reasonable AI Fears?
* AIs Will Be Our Mind Children
PauseAI links:
https://pauseai.info/
https://discord.gg/2XXWXvErfA
Check out https://youtube.com/@ForHumanityPodcast, the other podcast raising the alarm about AI extinction!
For the full Doom Debates experience:
* Subscribe to https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates
* Subscribe to the Substack: https://DoomDebates.com
* Search "Doom Debates" to subscribe in your podcast player
* Follow me at https://x.com/liron
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Robin Hanson is a legend in the rationality community and one of my biggest intellectual influences.
In 2008, he famously debated Eliezer Yudkowsky about AI doom via a sequence of dueling blog posts known as the great Hanson-Yudkowsky Foom Debate. This debate picks up where Hanson-Yudkowsky left off, revisiting key arguments in the light of recent AI advances.
My position is similar to Eliezer's: P(doom) is on the order of 50%. Robin's position is shockingly different: P(doom) is below 1%.
00:00 Announcements
03:18 Debate Begins
05:41 Discussing AI Timelines and Predictions
19:54 Economic Growth and AI Impact
31:40 Outside Views vs. Inside Views on AI
46:22 Predicting Future Economic Growth
51:10 Historical Doubling Times and Future Projections
54:11 Human Brain Size and Economic Metrics
57:20 The Next Era of Innovation
01:07:41 AI and Future Predictions
01:14:24 The Vulnerable World Hypothesis
01:16:27 AI Foom
01:28:15 Genetics and Human Brain Evolution
01:29:24 The Role of Culture in Human Intelligence
01:31:36 Brain Size and Intelligence Debate
01:33:44 AI and Goal-Completeness
01:35:10 AI Optimization and Economic Impact
01:41:50 Feasibility of AI Alignment
01:55:21 AI Liability and Regulation
02:05:26 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up
Robin's links:
Twitter: x.com/RobinHanson
Home Page: hanson.gmu.edu
Robin’s top related essays:
* What Are Reasonable AI Fears?
* AIs Will Be Our Mind Children
PauseAI links:
https://pauseai.info/
https://discord.gg/2XXWXvErfA
Check out https://youtube.com/@ForHumanityPodcast, the other podcast raising the alarm about AI extinction!
For the full Doom Debates experience:
* Subscribe to https://youtube.com/@DoomDebates
* Subscribe to the Substack: https://DoomDebates.com
* Search "Doom Debates" to subscribe in your podcast player
* Follow me at https://x.com/liron
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