On today's episode, Andy sits down with Jonathan Pullen, Assistant Chief of Operations for the South Central Region of the DEA. They discuss the logistics of the modern drug trade, the international supply chain of fentanyl precursor chemicals, and cartel operations along both the northern and southern U.S. borders.

Chapters:

(00:00) Cold Open & Introduction 

(01:16) What is the DEA's True Role?

(03:05) China's Involvement in the Fentanyl Crisis

(08:15) Smuggling Rings Beyond the Major Cartels 

(11:31) The Northern Border Threat & Montana Pipelines 

(17:02) How Drugs Move Across the U.S. (The Denver Hub) 

(20:32) Cartel Smuggling Tactics & Forced Labor 

(24:43) Money Laundering: Cash, Crypto, & MSBs 

(29:07) The Epidemic on Native American Reservations 

(34:59) Why Fentanyl is Deadlier Than Previous Drug Crises 

(42:05)  Raiding an Underground TdA Nightclub in Denver 

(50:49)  The DEA's Biggest Hurdle Right Now 

(55:03)  A Final Warning to Parents

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