As Andy and Felix enjoy their summer down under, the Dubai Files continues to deliver. This week Felix chats to Oris Co-CEO Rolf Studer, and it's not your average watch exec interview. Typically, it's a challenge to get a CEO to talk about anything but the watches, but in our chat with Studer, we ended up talking far more about the Enlightenment and philosophy (and how it relates to the business of watches) than is usual. Of course, we did manage to squeeze in some chat about the glorious Propilot X Laser along the way. Before that, please enjoy some light banter about holiday plans and the joys of British crime dramas.

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