There is no way in which to avoid values when talking about serious watches; this week Erik & Max lean into that fact by building a collection around a bit of lighthearted speculation. Yes, that is faux pas behavior, but it is also a ton of fun. As a little bonus, they reflect on a year becoming more engrossed in watches to draw some resolutions for the coming year. Finally, an Only Wrist for Mr Gates. 

Links Mentioned:

MB&F Robo-man: 

https://www.mbandf.com/people-spirit/collectibles/robotoys

Ellipse Lighter:

https://rareandfine.com/collectibles/ref-9507-blue-translucent-enamel-golden-ellipse-lighter/

Building a 100K 3-Watch Collection That Must Go Up in Value:

Complication Discussion:

https://hairspring.com/finds/5040g-patek-philippe-perpetual-calendar/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/a-lange-sohne/330-026-saxonia-annual-calendar-white-gold/

Chronograph Discussion:

https://hairspring.com/finds/green-don-bezel-2998-3-omega-speedmaster/

https://speedmaster101.com/105-002-2/

https://hairspring.com/finds/2915-2-broad-arrow-omega-speedmaster/

https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/NY080118/72

Intro to the 5070:

https://www.phillips.com/article/125814992/patek-philippe-chronograph-5070-guide

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/vacheron-constantin/47101-salmon-guilloche-dial-les-historiques-chronograph-platinum/

(47101 caseback is snap, not screw, a small correction)

Steel Sports Discussion:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/rolex/1603-vertically-brushed-dial-datejust-steel/

https://hairspring.com/finds/20368-1-universal-geneve-polerouter/

https://www.watchprosite.com/rolex/rolex-1665-sea-dweller-mk1-patent-pending-twins-/732.964148.6706998/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/vacheron-constantin/46003-222-steel-gold/

https://hairspring.com/finds/black-dial-1019-rolex-milgauss-2/

Only Wrist:

(Edit I remembered incorrectly, it was 1 959 Bill crash tested not multiple vehicles))

https://hairspring.com/finds/porcelain-floating-cosmograph-16528-rolex-daytona/

https://hairspring.com/finds/1530-rolex-oyster-perpetual-date-4/

Erik & Max embark on a myth-busting soirée which knows no bounds. Is Rolex a Charity? Why was the platinum Day-Date never fluted? Should hands always match? Was the helium escape valve invented when Rolex worked with Comex? Hint: it wasn't Was the Minute Repeater invented for a blind Patek Philippe client? Plus, if you're dating at 36, what should you wear?

Links Mentioned:

Anault Spying:

https://fortune.com/europe/2024/11/28/billionaire-bernard-arnault-court-completely-unaware-ex-spy-chief-abused-powers-protect-lvmh/

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2024/11/29/bernard-arnault-gives-witness-testimony-at-ex-spy-chief-trial-i-m-not-answering-these-stupid-questions_6734567_7.html

Rolex Corporate Structure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolex

Tantalum is Expensive (featuring Platinum):

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890695520306246

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-pros-cons-cost-and-convoluted-history-of-platinum

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/14/fashion/watches-dense-metal-tantalum.html

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-new-rolex-day-date-36mm-in-platinum-is-all-about-the-bezel

Ceramic Horror Story:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/can-someone-explain-omegas-ceramic-watch-cases.25204/page-2

The Cartier Crash was Invented After a Car Crash:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/how-the-cartier-crash-became-the-most-important-vintage-watch-of-2021

Minute Repeaters Patek Philippe History:

https://collectability.com/learn/collectability-in-depth-patek-philippe-minute-repeaters/

Aquanaut Mismatch:

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/collectors-guide-patek-philippe-aquanaut

Helium Escape Valve Was Invented with Comex:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/this-cousteau-watch-may-be-the-most-important-of-all

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/rolex-omega-fight-over-comex

https://perezcope.com/2020/02/25/the-doxa-hrv/

Finishing as Functional:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/does-great-movement-finishing-mean-a-great-watch

Airport Security Scanners:

https://www.the1916company.com/blog/can-your-watch-be-damaged-by-airport-security-scanners.html

Red Gold vs Rose Gold:

https://jackforster.substack.com/p/rose-gold-red-gold-pink-gold-whats

LM2 Example:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/mbf/legacy-machine-lm2-titanium/

Quick Summation of the Tourbillon:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/what-does-a-tourbillon-actually-do

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/rolex/1675-gilt-exclamation-dial-gmt-master-steel/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/a-collectors-guide-to-vintage-1970s-cartier-watches

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/audemars-piguet/25594st-royal-oak-day-date-moonphase-steel/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/audemars-piguet/25657or-quantieme-perpetuel-mother-of-pearl-dial-pink-gold/

https://hairspring.com/finds/italian-albino-3593-20-omega-speedmaster/

https://hairspring.com/finds/urban-jurgensen-reference-2/

(Detent, not double-impulse, misspoke)

https://www.phillips.com/detail/derek-pratt-for-urban-jurgensen/CH080524/40

In this episode, Erik & Max bring back the awards ceremony that is the Balance Cocks in a follow-up to our Most Significant Independents of the Last 25 Years episode (34). This is the same format, just with a much wider scope. Over the last 25 years of watchmaking, we award 1. The Most Beautiful Watch 2. The Ugliest 3. The Greatest Calibre 4. The Greatest Depreciation 5. The Greatest Value Watch 6. The Brand Which Has Progressed the Furthest. Plus, if you’re a Naval Submarine Commander, how should you replace your Submariner? 

Links Mentioned:

Blackwater Breitling:

https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/blackwater-breitling-the-story?srsltid=AfmBOopL2ufLLmqb4FlZfpi3cdkfpDoobjjtP-W7bcsCMT2vnFyn8zA-

Hodinkee Black Bay:

https://hairspring.com/finds/hodinkee-friends-family-79030-tudor-black-bay-58/

The Dubious Asprey:

https://www.sothebys.com/en/buy/auction/2024/important-watches-2/reference-116518l-daytona-a-yellow-gold-automatic?locale=en

The Balancecocks:

Most Beautiful Watch of the Last 25 Years Nominations:

https://hairspring.com/finds/gold-flux-dial-182-086-a-lange-sohne-little-lange-1/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/breitling-designer-sylvain-berneron-sets-out-to-explore-asymmetry-on-his-own

https://collectability.com/product/full-set-patek-philippe-limited-edition-saatchi-london-edition-ref-3970ep-046/

https://hairspring.com/finds/saatchi-salmon-dial-patek-philippe-3940g/

https://hairspring.com/finds/rexhep-rexhepi-chronometre-contemporain-rrcc1/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-with-the-fp-journe-t-10-anniversary-tourbillon

Ugliest Watch of the Last 25 Years Nominations:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/code-1159-audemars-piguet-introducing

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/audemars-piguet-black-panther-watch-live-pics-pricing

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-patek-philippe-cubitus-collection

Cubitus AI Generated Ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XisTUlhuEZ4

Greatest Calibre of the Last 25 Years Nominations:

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/datograph-collectors-guide

https://quillandpad.com/2021/12/05/why-i-bought-it-rexhep-rexhepi-akrivia-chronometre-contemporain/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/fp-journe/elegante-titanium/

Greatest Depreciation of the Last 25 Years Nominations:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-nautilus-5711-tiffany-blue-phillips-new-york-2021

https://www.tagheuer.com/us/en/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hodinkees-watch-of-the-year-and-the-winner-is

https://www.audemarspiguet.com/com/en/home.html

Greatest Value Watch of the Last 25 Years Nominations:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-black-bay-fifty-eight-introducing

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/omega-speedmaster-caliber-321-stainless-steel-ed-white-introducing

Brand Which Has Progressed the Furthest in 25 Years Nominations:

https://www.fpjourne.com/en

https://www.alange-soehne.com/dispatch

Only Wrist:

https://watchesbysjx.com/2020/08/ferdinand-berthoud-chronometre-fb-2re-review.html

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/h-moser-pioneer-cylindrical-tourbillon-2022

https://hairspring.com/finds/brown-guilloche-dial-voutilainen-observatoire/

https://www.watchprosite.com/zenith/zenith-chronometre-caliber-135-o--yes-the-kari-voutilainen-famous-one-/

https://www.watchprosite.com/zenith/zenith-chronometre-caliber-135-o--yes-the-kari-voutilainen-famous-one-/1123.1578721.15648191/

https://hairspring.com/finds/turler-dial-166-052-omega-constellation-chronometer/

https://hairspring.com/finds/2526-patek-philippe-calatrava-white-gold/

Erik & Max pause for a moment to contemplate the last year or two of the deep enthusiast watch market and where things are at this moment. This includes both a macro overview with broad trends and a finer, nuanced take on specific models. In the words of Niels Bohr, ‘It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.’ Nonetheless, there’s a bit of that as well. While they normally shy away from value discussions, this one is all of that at once. Finally, a collection building exercise. If you had 100K for a complicated integrated bracelet watch, is it better to go all in or separate that amount over two watches (one complicated, one integrated bracelet)? It’s a fun one, this. 

Links Mentioned:

Subdial Index:

https://subdial.com/market

100K for an Integrated Bracelet Complication or Split the Amount Between Two Watches?

Max:

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/a-collector-s-guide-to-the-nautilus-3800

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/iwc/9240-ingenieur-perpetual-calendar-jumbo-yellow-gold/

http://www.onthedash.com/chronograph/af-seafarer-ref-2447/

Erik:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-vacheron-constantin-222-is-the-greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread-which-isnt-all-that-great-but-y

https://hairspring.com/finds/tropical-ed-white-105-003-65-omega-speedmaster/

https://hairspring.com/finds/25686ba-audemars-piguet-royal-oak-quantieme-perpetuel/

Only Wrist:

Max:

https://www.windvintage.com/ikepod-red-manatee-new-old-stock-full-set

https://www.windvintage.com/breitling-unitime-reference-1-260

Erik:

https://www.db1983.com/product-page/jeager-lecoultre-memovox-worldtime-1960s

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/theres-more-from-patek-philippe-and-its-complicated

https://hairspring.com/finds/1415-patek-philippe-world-time/

Erik & Max take a listener question to the extreme: how do you go about learning in watches? Where should you be pulling information from: mainstream media, retailers, auction houses, or even forums? This episode is a deep dive on how to structure learning, or at least how one might approach it. Also, has Gronefeld lost it with the Manueel? Plus, what does the most boring man in the world wear?

Links Mentioned:

Gronefeld’s Grone Manueel:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/intro-gronefeld-brothers-grone-manueel-one

https://www.instagram.com/p/DB-3DUDAOSx/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Single-Model Sites:

https://explorer1016.com

https://gmtmaster1675.com

Revolution’s Mentioned:

https://revolutionwatch.com/the-complete-guide-to-patek-philippe-vintage-chronographs/

PCC on Hodinkee in 2014:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/understanding-the-entire-lineage-of-patek-philippe-perpetual

Langepedia (It’s Alp, not Alf sorry)

https://langepedia.com

Retail-Driver Journalism:

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/the-story-of-early-f-p-journe

https://www.phillips.com/article/120822636/who-is-philippe-dufour-guide-simplicity-duality-sonnerie

https://www.phillips.com/article/135703213/vacheron-constantin-mercator-history-guide

43031:

https://www.watchbrotherslondon.com/articles/reference-talk-vacheron-constantin-automatic-quantieme-perpetual-ref-43031-and-ref-43032

Ingenieur:

https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/reference-guide-iwc-ingenieur-sl?srsltid=AfmBOoqy9cCbuKT8nVnU1PGcgsZRwTVZx9EVHhNMTgiBY8as1XQWAn5j

Octa Chronographe:

https://watchesbysjx.com/2022/02/guide-fp-journe-octa-chronographe-watch4moi.html

Rescapement:

https://www.rescapement.com/blog/tag/Cartier

Only Wrist:

https://www.rolex.com/en-us/watches/datejust/m126334-0001

https://bulangandsons.com/products/rolex-explorer-14270-black-out-silver-print-w2987

https://www.longines.com/en-us

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/ftc-takes-major-action-against-shinola-demands-where-american-is-made-slogan-to-be-dropped-immediately

You asked, here are the answers. This week, Erik & Max read out and discuss your blistering hot takes, sourced from Instagram. The conversation could not be more varied, from snowflake vs Mercedes to 2499 vs 3970 including stops at Zenith’s 3019, bund straps, and ‘Should full rotors even have display casebooks?’ It’s all here, with an Only Wrist for an art thief. 

Links Mentioned:

Snowcone Hand on 76100:

https://hairspring.com/finds/76100-snowcone-tudor-submariner/

Snowflake Hand on an MN:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/tudor/9401-0-marine-nationale-submariner-steel/

Full Rotors that Deserve Sapphire:

https://www.alange-soehne.com/us-en/timepieces/saxonia/saxonia-automatic/saxonia-automatic-in-950-platinum-380-027

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/vacheron-constantin/4300v-overseas-ultra-thin-perpetual-calendar-skeleton-pink-gold/

Zenith 3019:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/zenith/a386-el-primero-steel/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/zenith-defy-inventor-introducing

Moser’s Sense of Humor:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/h-moser-retracts-the-swiss-icons-watch

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/h-moser-swiss-alp-vantablack-watch-hands-on

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/h-moser-swiss-mad-watch-swiss-cheese-limited-edition-venturer-introducing

Thierry Stern:

https://www.screwdowncrown.com/p/patek-philippe-cubitus-criticism-stern-response

Jaeger-Lecoultre:

https://hairspring.com/finds/214-3-62-jaeger-lecoultre-reverso-metiers-tribute-to-ferdinand-hodler/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-jaeger-lecoultre-reverso-tribute-chronograph-2

Fagliano History:

https://monochrome-watches.com/meet-the-makers-casa-fagliano-boot-maker-and-strap-maker-for-jaeger-lecoultre/

Gerald Genoa’s Finnissimo:

https://quillandpad.com/2022/12/06/bulgari-by-gerald-genta-octo-quadri-retro-chronograph-from-2011-embodying-the-past-and-a-possible-future-of-a-once-imperious-haute-horlogerie-leader/

Grand Sport Tourbillon:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/laurent-ferrier-tourbillon-grand-sport-introducing

Bund Straps:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/see-paul-newmans-rolex-daytona-in-a-whole-new-light-in-the-last-movie-stars

https://www.rescapement.com/blog/found-nina-rindts-universal-geneve-nina-rindt

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/finds/3705-iwc-ceramic-flieger-chronograph/

https://www.fpjourne.com/en/collection/only-watch-timepieces/chronographe-monopoussoir-rattrapante-bleu-only-watch-2017

https://watchesbysjx.com/2024/05/fp-journe-chronometre-furtif-bleu-only-watch-2024-review.html

Much as they shy away from topical events, Erik & Max have to ask the obvious this week—but perhaps not in the way you think. While the conversation does come to rest on the Cubitus, this week’s chat is centered around chronicling the last two decades of slow and steady decline at one of the world’s greatest watchmaking houses. It’s not a roast; it’s a plea. From machining marks left bare on the calibre 324 to calibre 31-260 avoiding interior angles like Lange avoids exuberance, it’s all here. Plus, what should a great designer at Chanel wear to mark a success? 

Links Mentioned:

Initial Discontinuation of the 5711 in 2021:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-ref-5711-nautilus-has-been-discontinued

2008 Departure from the Geneva Seal:

https://www.watchtime.com/wristwatch-industry-news/industry/patek-philippe-create-quality-seal/

https://quillandpad.com/2018/07/07/the-geneva-seal-is-it-really-a-big-deal-archive/

https://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/this-has-been-discussed-at-length-on-the-canadian-forum-so-i-ll-repost-some-of-it-here-/17.1421081.13055676/

https://www.41watch.com/en/blog/patek-philippe-nautilus-5711-geneva-patek-seal-n62

Top of Catalogue Repeaters:

https://collectability.com/product/patek-philippe-white-gold-minute-repeating-wristwatch-ref-5078g-001/

High vs Low Catalogue Finish:

https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-philippe/finish-on-standard-vs-high-end-patek-movements/11.1240336.10258681/

Calibre 324 Issues:

https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-philippe/no-problem-with-size-but-with-finishing-and-overuse--/11.847583.5750998/

https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-philippe/when-did-patek-finish-quality-change--moderator-edit-it-hasn-t-changed-/11.1555431.15271751/

Calibre 31-260 PS QL:

https://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/an-observation-regarding-patek-31-260-ps-ql/17.1421081.13055496/

5303 vs 3939 Calibres (Repeater with Calibre not made to case):

https://hairspring.com/finds/5303r-patek-philippe-minute-repeater/

https://www.phillips.com/detail/patek-philippe/CH080221/40 (the true OG Tourbillon Repeater)

Strategy and Positioning:

Interview:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-boss-thierry-stern-on-ukraine-rolex-his-succession-plan-his-personal-collection-and-y

1938P Repeater with Face of Philippe Stern on Dial:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-30-piece-limited-series-patek-philippe-minute-repeater-alarm-ref-1938p-in-honor-of-philippe-ster

Square 222: 

https://hairspring.com/finds/46004-vacheron-constantin-square-222/

Cubitus:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-patek-philippe-cubitus-collection

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/laurent-ferrier/galet-classic-micro-rotor-for-hodinkee-titanium/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-a-lange-and-sohne-1815-rattrapante-now-in-platinum

Erik & Max have a surprisingly deep conversation around some devious watch-based would you rather questions. Plus, what do we make of the WoS Hodinkee move? Independent vs modern is addressed, LF vs Journe, and many other topics. This was intended to be quite unserious but it wound up trending that way. Finally, what should an English rock musician who appreciates US culture wear? 

Links Mentioned:

Hodinkee to WoS:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/04/fashion/hodinkee-sale-watches-of-switzerland.html

WYR:

Tom Brady’s Collection:

https://www.gq.com/story/watches-of-the-week-10-12-24

Coatian Tennis Player Donna Vekić wears Eleganté:

https://x.com/GQMagazine/status/1677709192134524929

IWC Gloves:

https://timeandtidewatches.com/f1-movie-iwc-lewis-hamilton-brad-pitt-pop-culture/

Aquanaut:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/patek-philippe-releases-a-rainbow-aquanaut-luce-minute-repeater-for-ladies

Aquanaut 5063 Set Dial:

https://www.watchprosite.com/patek-philippe/randomly--when-you-thought-you-have-seen-it-all--/11.1387591.12460026/

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/rolex/1675-gilt-exclamation-dial-gmt-master-steel/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/introducing-jn-shapiro-resurgence

https://hairspring.com/finds/tiffany-dial-6263-rolex-daytona-in-14k-yellow-gold/

https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/valjoux-lecoultre-us-chronograph-guide

Erik & Max are attempting the least-searchable list ever: what are the most un-iconic watches of all time? We all hate browsing listings and auctions only to see iconic watch after iconic watch. It’s meaningless as an adjective. This week’s episode pokes fun at the phrase by finding great watches that no one could possibly call iconic, alternative that are better just not definitely not icons. Erik & Max even dare here to ask what the first Daytona was. Discussion ranges from Phidias to Flageollet and even JLC’s likeness to Lange. Plus, an only wrist for sommelier. 

Links Mentioned:

Awful Day-Date:

https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/watches-online-dubai-edit/rolex-day-date-ref-128459tbr-spectacular-gold-diamond-set-wristwatch-20/221019

The Least Iconic Watches:

Lange 1:

https://hairspring.com/finds/fp-journe-octa-reserve-de-marche-straight-line/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/a-lange-sohne/401-026-1815-chronograph-first-generation-white-gold/

Tank:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/panthere-de-cartier-now-comes-in-extra-large

https://www.analogshift.com/products/cartier-baignoire-s-as09602

https://thekeystone.com/products/iwc-platinum-novcento-perpetual-calendar-ref-3546?srsltid=AfmBOorzlsTGdX6RY5TAPqg9RWHEy-1COqoQdTwzF3ulGCi53oxuAI1F

https://www.the1916company.com/blog/the-audemars-piguet-edward-piguet-perpetual-calendar.html

https://hairspring.com/finds/jaeger-lecoultre-tank-6129-21/

Daytona:

https://hairspring.com/finds/paul-newman-6239-rolex-daytona/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/understanding-the-omega-speedmaster-professional

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/reference-points-tag-heuer-carrera

https://hairspring.com/finds/885103-01-evil-nina-universal-geneve-compax/

Reverso:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/cartier/2499c-cpcp-tank-basculante-yellow-gold/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/de-bethune/db-kind-of-two-jumping-gmt-titanium/

https://hairspring.com/finds/270-2-69-jaeger-lecoultre-reverso-chronographe-retrograde/

Meeting Denis Flageollet: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv-jEyvfJIE

Royal Oak:

https://ineichen.com/auctions/timed-71/107/

https://us.arbitro.shop/products/vacheron-constantin-phidias-49002-yg-chronograph-white

https://thekeystone.com/products/vacheron-contantin-platinum-333-watch?srsltid=AfmBOoosXOqlwV3XflsvZpeRpc9LqGNVkmtyPGFoO35FAJh1pFWUD79Y

https://hairspring.com/finds/2215-vacheron-constantin-royal-chronometer/

https://www.watchbrotherslondon.com/articles/reference-talk-vacheron-constantin-overseas-1st-generation-ref-42040-42042-and-ref-42050-42052

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/vacheron-constantin/7910v-everest-overseas-dual-time-titanium/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/vacheron-constantin/4300v-overseas-ultra-thin-perpetual-calendar-skeleton-pink-gold/

Sub:

https://hairspring.com/finds/blancpain-fifty-fathoms-rotomatic/

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/omega/2913-3-meister-dial-seamaster-300-steel/

Calatrava:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/a-lange-sohne/216-027-stealth-saxonia-boutique-edition-white-gold/

https://hairspring.com/finds/onyx-dial-16018-rolex-datejust/

Perpetual Calendar Chronograph:

https://hairspring.com/exclusives/patek-philippe/5270r-perpetual-calendar-chronograph-pink-gold/

https://hairspring.com/finds/dore-dial-patek-philippe-3940/

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/intro-datograph-perpetual-tourbillon-honeygold-lumen

Datejust:

https://hairspring.com/finds/value-prop-7996-tudor-oysterdate-ranger/

https://goldammer.me/blogs/articles/tudor-ranger-ii-oysterquartz-inspiration

https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/cricket-2

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/finds/2508-patek-philippe-calatrava/

https://hairspring.com/finds/piece-unique-ovitz-patek-philippe-3940r/

Erik & Max finally sync up with Sylvain Berneron to discuss his watches and just why they're being received so distinctly to anything else in the independent space right now. However, the chat doesn't just revolve around Berneron the brand, but Sylvain as a collector, the difficulty of branching out on your own, motorcycles, mid-century Patek, and, yes, even that fracas at Geneva Watch Days. This is the most casual, wide-ranging discussion with Sylvain you'll find, we hope you enjoy.

Links Mentioned:

https://www.berneron.ch/collections

Asymmetrical Observatory Seiko Calibres:

https://thegrandseikoguy.substack.com/p/seikos-astronomical-observatory-chronometer

Andrew Grima Omega:

https://bulangandsons.com/blogs/watch-talks/the-andrew-grima-omega-years

Gilbert Albert Patek Philippe:

https://collectability.com/learn/gilbert-albert-the-genius-designer-who-changed-the-face-of-watchmaking/

The Crash:

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/how-the-cartier-crash-became-the-most-important-vintage-watch-of-2021

Desmosedici:

https://www.ducati.com/us/en/heritage/bikes/desmosedici-rr

Mirage 34 Stone Dial

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/hands-on-berneron-mirage-34mm-realizes-its-creators-uncompromising-vision

Background For the Fracas:

https://www.screwdowncrown.com/p/sylvain-supposedly-snapped

3 Questions: 

https://langepedia.com/encyclopedia/lange-1815/1815-up-down/

https://www.acollectedman.com/blogs/journal/patek-philippe-3940

https://mrwatchley.com/products/patek-philippe-calatrava-96-steel-breguet-numerals

https://www.alange-soehne.com/ww-en/timepieces/1815/1815-updown/1815-updown-in-18-carat-white-gold-221-027

https://www.phillips.com/detail/patek-philippe/CH080322/53

https://www.phillips.com/detail/patek-philippe/CH080224/175

https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/CH080215/201

Only Wrist:

https://hairspring.com/finds/serpico-y-laino-dial-6605-rolex-datejust-ovettone-pink-gold/

https://langepedia.com/encyclopedia/lange-1815/

https://www.phillips.com/detail/vacheron-constantin/HK080119/991