More poor results for our rivals Manchester City and Liverpool this week, but the reason for their losses seem to be down to individual performances and personnel... How come when Man United lose it is usually solely down to the flaws in Ruben Amorim's system! Join Joe, Jay and Stephen Howson to unpick it all on Off The Bar!

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Chapters:

0:00 - Intro

0:52 - Blaming The System

7:44 - Scoring Systems

10:20 - Pressure

14:26 - Palace Possession

28:00 - Palace Play Style

34:32 - Reigning Champions

37:24 - Liverpool Slump

45:25 - Ronaldo Ban

49:17 - Corruption

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