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  • S6 Ep22: Prepping for a 500-Person Apple-Style Stage in South Africa | Catch Up Episode

    Consider this a proper catch-up from the sofa at Mollies, and this time I’ve brought someone new to meet you all. 

    Introducing Isi who is now running my social media! She follows me round with a camera, keeps me grounded and won’t let me eat a croissant until she’s got the shot (obviously!)

    When this episode launches, we'll be two days out from my first TEDx Talk rehearsal and right now it’s not going in yet. I’m sharing why this one feels so vulnerable, plus a first look at what it’s about. 

    We also catch up on a busy few weeks and look ahead to something I still can’t believe... we’re going to South Africa!

    In this episode, we get into:

    💡 A first look at my TED Talk: How to Turn Anxiety Into Action in Two Minutes
    🤝 Two talks in one day in London, and the “secret sauce” behind Social Chain’s growth
    📱 Debating the under-16 social media ban with Tulisa at Leeds International Festival of Ideas
    🌍 Speaking at Auto Trader’s 500-person conference in Johannesburg
    😅 The guilt of downtime when you work for yourself
    ✍️ My relaunched Substack

    🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful Mollies Manchester. Proudly sponsored by We Are The Allies.

    We Are The Allies plugs you into the UK's best network of freelance talent whether you're launching a new campaign or need to get through a backlog of content: https://newbusiness.wearetheallies.com/katyleeson/

    28 min
  • S6 Ep20: 7 Years Later: Re-Visiting My Miscarriage Story | Baby Loss Awareness Week

    This week is Baby Loss Awareness Week, so I'm re-sharing a conversation that means a lot to me.

    Seven years ago, shortly after my own miscarriage, I sat down with Ruth Bender Atik. She was National Director of what was then the Miscarriage Association (now Miscarriage UK) and has since retired.

    We talk honestly about how common miscarriage really is, why it's still such a taboo, and what nobody tells you about the experience. That includes the guilt, the decisions you're asked to make in hospital while you're in shock, and the fear of trying again.

    In this episode:

    • Why around one in four pregnancies is thought to end in miscarriage
    • The "12-week rule", and why it isn't a rule at all
    • Why any sentence starting with "at least" is best left unsaid
    • Pregnancy after loss, and why the anxiety is completely normal
    • If you've been through baby loss, or love someone who has, this one's for you.

      Please note: this episode was recorded seven years ago, so some of the information, services and guidance discussed may have changed since. For the most up-to-date information, advice and support, please contact Miscarriage UK:

      🌐 https://www.miscarriageuk.org/
       📞 0303 003 6464
       💬 Live chat is available through their website

      🎙️ Recorded at Mollies, Manchester
      🙏 Sponsored by We Are The Allies

      59 min
    • S6 Ep19: Inside The TEDx Framework: 8 to 18 Minutes to Change A Life | Martina Witter

      A TED talk was on my vision board for this year. So when I was asked to speak at TEDx Trafford this November, I was thrilled, but when I started the process I was surprised by just what it takes to get on that stage.

      So for this week's episode, I'm joined by TEDx Trafford Curator Martina Witter to throw back the curtain on what really goes on behind the scenes.

      Martina had her first TEDx licence application rejected outright, but rather than treating that as a final no, she used it as information to try again and successfully put on the very first TEDx Trafford last year.

      In this episode we discuss:

      🎤 The difference between TED and TEDx, and how a curator's values shape the whole event
       💡 Why TEDx isn't looking for speakers, it's looking for one idea worth spreading (not ten, as I found out the hard way)
       📋 The TEDx framework: 8–18 minutes, grounded in science, no politics, religion or plugging your business, and a powerful hook within the first 60 seconds
       🧠 Why coaching starts months in advance, and how Martina builds psychological safety into it
       🎭 The art of TEDx curation, and why the running order is planned around the audience's emotions
       👀 What the coaching has changed about how I speak on stage, and a little teaser of my own idea worth spreading (watch this space…)

      If you've ever thought "I'd love to do a TED talk one day," well this episode is giving you a sneak peak into the process.

      TEDx Trafford takes place on 21st November. Grab your tickets at tedxtrafford.com or on Eventbrite. I'd love to see you there.

      🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful Mollies Manchester. 

      Proudly sponsored by We Are The Allies. Looking for creative firepower, a new skillset or need to get through a backlog of content? The Allies can help!

      41 min
    • S6 Ep18: I Shouldn't Say This, But... The Best Bits

      18 episodes into series 6, and I don't know where the time's gone! This week, to celebrate, I've pulled together my favourite moments from my guests this series. If you'd like to watch any of the episodes in full, scroll down for the links.

      In this episode:

      - Kelly Tucker on why your team are "subscribing" to your workplace
      - Sarah Louise Keane on why we keep playing down our own numbers
      - Jade Reilly on creatine: what it is and who should take it
      - Pav Riyat-Ward on what freelancers need to get booked
      - Ash Jones on personal branding when there are no gatekeepers
      - Sacha Lord on why he spoke out after a tragedy at Warehouse Project
      - Heather Elkington on nice vs kind, and why saying the hard thing matters
      - Liberty Mills on the fertility conversation nobody's having with men

      Once again, thank you to my sponsor, We Are The Allies 🤝
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      Catch up on the full episodes 🎧

      Kelly Tucker → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXlrwk4H-k
      Sarah Louise Keane → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9exBcd6MZY
      Jade Reilly → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9UHWIgRqyk
      Pav Riyat-Ward → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMrs-bFaADk
      Ash Jones → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCzgrs8OEQ
      Sacha Lord → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Mh7nSdiig
      Heather Elkington → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1_qmqkZMOA
      Liberty Mills → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvLRLU2KFo4

      🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful, Mollies Manchester.

      23 min
    • S6 Ep17: How To Overcome A Fear of Public Speaking (When It Scares You More Than Death)

      When I went on BBC Radio 4's The Bottom Line, someone said that people fear public speaking more than they fear death.

      It's stuck with me ever since. Because if that's true, most of us are walking into every pitch, presentation and team meeting carrying a fear we've never actually been taught how to handle. So this episode is all about changing that.

      I'm letting you in on how I, a self-confessed introvert who refused to be in the Social Chain daily vlogs, ended up speaking every single week.

      In this episode, we get into:

      - My speaker journey, from winning new business at Social Chain to being signed by Champions Speaker Agency
      - The coffee with an audience member that gave me my "why"
      - The best advice I've been given to plan my talks: have data, because you can't argue with data
      - How to plan the "landing points" in a talk
      - Why I only talk on topics I have lived experience on
      - My method for cutting a full script down to the points you have to nail, and how this can practically help you
      - What's in my boost folder right now, and what I'm manifesting into it for 2027

      🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful Mollies Manchester. Proudly sponsored by We Are The Allies, the creative network that makes this podcast possible. Find out more about what they do here: https://newbusiness.wearetheallies.com/katyleeson/

      37 min
    • S6 Ep16: Google Told Me I Couldn't Be A Managing Director (Here's How I've Proved It Wrong)

      I’m back for another catch-up with my producer Stefan - the second one now, so if you liked the last unfiltered chat, this is more of that.

      We're covering off everything that’s been going on in my life since the last one: 

      • The ‘old man in a grey suit’ MD image that’s followed me since my first imposter syndrome session 
      • Flying BA to speak at BA and making someone overcome with an emotion (which was a win, not a fail - trust me!)
      • The shift that’s changed how I run my business thinking not about income I need but as an actual business with a P&L
      • What "quiet" really means for someone who doesn't switch off,
      • Communication across generations, what I learned at Social Chain and how I teach organisations this now
      • Plus, an update on my TEDx announcement - from my vision board in January to now being less than two months away from actually doing it
      • If you've ever wondered what actually goes on behind the scenes of building a business and a podcast at the same time, this one's for you.

        🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful Mollie's, Manchester. 

        Proudly sponsored by We Are The Allies.

        Need creative firepower without the agency overhead? We Are The Allies connect brands with the UK's best freelance talent, fast. No endless briefs, no mismatches, just the right person for the job. Get in touch here.

        *This episode was recorded at the start of August. We've re-ordered the episodes to  publish our Guest episodes first.

        25 min
      • S6 Ep15: They Told Me I Was Barren at 43. Here's How I Got Pregnant Naturally at 44 | Liberty Mills

        At 43, Liberty Mills was told one of your ovaries is empty and you are barren. 

        She could have accepted it. She didn't, having already reversed her lupus diagnosis and gave birth naturally two weeks before turning 25.

        I sit down with Liberty, a Fertility and Autoimmune Coach, to unpack how she did it and the philosophy she teaches clients: test, don't guess. Before any supplement or protocol, find out what your body is actually doing.

        We also get into a stat almost nobody talks about: 48% of infertility cases involve a male contributing factor. Plus how stress shows up in the body before you notice it, and Liberty's "golden hour" routine, journaling, movement, and learning something unrelated to your goals, in that order.

        In this episode:

        • The diagnosis at 43, and the path to a natural conception at 44
        • Why "test, don't guess" comes before any supplement or pill
        • The overlooked male fertility factor behind that 48%
        • What stress actually does in the body, and the early signs most people miss
        • Liberty's golden hour, step by step
        • The best advice Liberty's ever received, and how she uses it
        • If you've ever been handed scary language about your body and told to just accept it, this one's for you.

          🎙️ Recorded at Mollies, Manchester 🙏 Sponsored by We Are The Allies

          45 min
        • S6 Ep14: I Shouldn't Say This But, Here's The Real Reason I Interview People

          We're a good few episodes into the new series of I Shouldn't Say This, But, and I wanted to do something different this week - a solo recap of what I've personally learned, what's changed, and where we're going next, so buckle up!

          When I brought the podcast back, it wasn't just about creating more content. I wanted to create a safe space where leaders and founders could feel less alone talking about the things we really don't want to say out loud.

          To do that properly, I had to think hard about the guests and the topics. And honestly? The lessons have really stuck with me.

          In this episode, I take a deep dive into:

          • Why it was the right time to bring the podcast back after 4 long years
          • What I've taken from the guests' episodes and how it's actually shown up in my real life
          • The new question I'm asking every guest and why you'll want to stick around to the end of each episode to hear their answers
          • What's coming next: fertility, politics, the inner workings of the biggest brands and more
          • Why increasing female voices in podcasting matters so much to me
          • If you've ever wondered what's actually going on behind the scenes of this podcast, this one's for you.

            🎙️ Recorded at the beautiful Mollies Manchester. Proudly sponsored by We Are The Allies.

            8 min
          • S6 Ep13: Why "Being Nice" Is Actually the Coward's Way Out. From the Harrods shop floor to founder: Heather Elkington

            Heather started out being trained not to say the word "toilet" on the Harrods shop floor. She ended up running culture for a Footsie 100 business, sat in rooms twenty years her senior, telling herself her opinion didn't count.

            This episode is about what happened in between, and the philosophy she built off the back of it: nice vs kind. 

            Why being nice is the coward's option. Why the strongest relationships in her life have come from saying the hard thing instead of softening it. And why she built a spreadsheet to figure out exactly how long she could survive before she quit her safe, well-paid job to bet on herself (plus the one message from her dad that pushed her over the edge).

            We finish on Custard, her new culture intelligence tool with an AI coach called Geraldine built in, and why she's refusing to grow it fast just because AI makes that possible now.

            If you've ever softened a message you should have said straight, this one's for you.

            1 hr 20 min
          • S6 Ep12: I Nearly Went Back to Employment (And Here's Why I Didn't)

            We're three months into the podcast (five if you count the planning), and I wanted to do something different for this one: an unfiltered chat with my producer Stefan.

            In this episode, we get into:

            • Why I chose Mollie's over a studio, and the branding lesson I took from watching Steven Bartlett build a recognisable set from his own flat
            • The advice from Heather Elkington that changed how I thought about building "Katy" into a business (and gave me permission to spend a year just f***ing around first)
            • What impact actually means to me when I'm choosing podcast guests, and why I want more "number twos" on the show, not just founders
            • The realities nobody talks about when you go solo: paying your own tax, your VAT, your mortgage, and still trying to live a life while you do it
            • Why I nearly walked back into employment, and what stopped me
            • Business as choosing your own kind of hard, and why the "risk vs reward" conversation misses the point
            • Why every business owner needs their cheerleaders, and what Karen Blackett taught me about the loneliness of leadership
            • My "boost folder" method for using imposter syndrome as fuel instead of letting it flatten you
            • This one's less about the milestones and more about the messy middle. If you've ever built something on your own and quietly wondered if it's worth it, this episode is for you.
              16 min

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