Author/professor/policy expert/political strategist and ally for the ages Kate Black is here to talk about the state of American electoral politics, the five steps of getting involved in your own community to advocate for what you believe in, and Kelly Clarkson’s Chemistry. Also: becoming a born-again tidy person, donating a kidney and all that that entails, the challenge of triathlons, the quiet bravery of keeping your head down and continuing to swim, the joys of the Midwest, the cost of diapers, June Diane Raphael as life-changer, how to support LGBTQ+ candidates, why we’re still stuck with the language of hyper-masculinity, and how we’re feeling about the 2024 election. PLUS: the true story of Michael Patrick King on Matt’s new podcast And Just Like Matt!