An ideal episode if your running needs an infusion of fun! Sarah welcomes therapist Kate Kneifel, MSW, LCSW, who shares running games that can change your outlook and approach to running—and life. This one-on-one conversation (co-host Katie scoots after the intro chitchat) zigs and zags in delightful directions, including:

-detailing running games you’ve never considered;

-how creativity and playfulness can invigorate your relationship with running;

-the value of giving your brain “something to chew on”;

-the joy of small things; and, 

-how to get “unstuck.”

Before Katie ducks out of the episode (which originally aired 7/10/20), the hosting duo laughs over an unexpected TMI topic. Kate the therapist enters the scene at 20:48.

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