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S03E36 - Clara E. Mattei on Austerity, Fascism and Authoritarian Liberalism
Clara E. Mattei on the relation between austerity, fascism and authoritarian liberalism.
Clara's book is out in German! Find it here:
Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag.
https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals
Shownotes
Clara E. Mattei’s website:
https://www.claramattei.com/
Center for Heterodox Economics (CHE) at the University of Tulsa, Oklahoma:
https://sites.utulsa.edu/chetu/
CHE’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@CHE-tulsa
Mattei, C. E. (2022). The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism. University of Chicago Press.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo181707138.html
the german translation:
Mattei, C. E. (2025). Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag.
https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals
on „Derisking“:
Amarnath, S., Brusseler, M., Gabor, D., Lala, C., Mason, JW (2023). Varieties of Derisking. Phenomenal World.
https://www.phenomenalworld.org/interviews/derisking/
on “DOGE” (Department of Government Efficiency):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency
on the new german “Sondervermögen” to invest in rearmament and infrastructure:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-spend-big-on-army-and-infrastructure/a-71834527
on the 1920 International Financial Conference in Brussels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_International_Financial_Conference_(1920)
on the 1922 Economic and Financial Conference in Genoa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa_Economic_and_Financial_Conference_(1922)
on Google’s contract with the IDF:
https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349582/google-israel-defense-forces-idf-contract-gaza
Benanav, A. (2022). Socialist Investment, Dynamic Planning, and the Politics of Human Need. Rethinking Marxism, 34(2), 193–204.
https://doi.org/10.1080/08935696.2022.2051375
Sirianni, C. J. (1980). Workers’ Control in the Era of World War I: A Comparative Analysis of the European Experience. Theory and Society, 9(1), 29–88.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/656823
on the Landless Workers Movement in Brazil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landless_Workers%27_Movement
Braun, B. (2021) Central Bank Planning for Public Purpose. In: Fassin, D. and Fourcade, M. (eds.) Pandemic Exposures: Economy and Society in the Time of Coronavirus. HAU Books, pp. 105–121.
https://benjaminbraun.org/assets/pubs/braun_central-bank-planning-public-purpose.pdf
on the “Phillips Curve”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_curve
Arun K. Patnaik. (1988). Gramsci’s Concept of Common Sense: Towards a Theory of Subaltern Consciousness in Hegemony Processes. Economic and Political Weekly, 23(5).
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4378042
Thomas, P.D. (2015). Gramsci’s Marxism: The ‘Philosophy of Praxis’. In: McNally, M. (eds.) Antonio Gramsci. Critical Explorations in Contemporary Political Thought. Palgrave Macmillan.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137334183_6
on the US Solidarity Economy:
https://neweconomy.net/solidarity-economy/
the US Solidarity Economy Network:
https://ussen.org/
the US Solidarity Economy Map and Directory:
https://solidarityeconomy.us/
If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:
Democratic planning – an information website
https://www.democratic-planning.com/
Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.
https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1
Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]
https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
https://www.indep.network/
Democratic Planning Research Platform:
https://www.planningresearch.net/
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https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e29-nancy-fraser-on-alternatives-to-capitalism/
S03E24 | Grace Blakeley on Capitalist Planning and its Alternatives
https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e24-grace-blakeley-on-capitalist-planning-and-its-alternatives/
S02E08 | Thomas Biebricher zu neoliberaler Regierungskunst
https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e08-thomas-biebricher-zu-neoliberaler-regierungskunst/
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Episode Keywords
#ClaraEMattei, #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #Austerity, #CentralBanks, #Capitalism, #Fascism, #Economics, #NeoclassicalEconomics, #HeterodoxEconomics, #PluralEconomics, #State, #CapitalistState, #Markets, #History, #SolidarityEconomy, #AntonioGramsci, #Gramsci, #Investment, #DemocraticPlanning, #DemocraticEconomicPlanning, #Derisking, #PoliticalEconomy, #EconomicHistory, #AuthoritarianLiberalism, #EconomicThought, #EconomicDemocracy
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Clara E. Mattei on the relation between austerity, fascism and authoritarian liberalism.
Clara's book is out in German! Find it here:
Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag.
https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals
Shownotes
Clara E. Mattei’s website:
https://www.claramattei.com/
Center for Heterodox Economics (CHE) at the University of Tulsa, Oklahoma:
https://sites.utulsa.edu/chetu/
CHE’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@CHE-tulsa
Mattei, C. E. (2022). The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism. University of Chicago Press.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo181707138.html
the german translation:
Mattei, C. E. (2025). Die Ordnung des Kapitals: Wie Ökonomen die Austerität erfanden und dem Faschismus den Weg bereiteten. Brumaire Verlag.
https://shop.jacobin.de/bestellen/clara-mattei-die-ordnung-des-kapitals
on „Derisking“:
Amarnath, S., Brusseler, M., Gabor, D., Lala, C., Mason, JW (2023). Varieties of Derisking. Phenomenal World.
https://www.phenomenalworld.org/interviews/derisking/
on “DOGE” (Department of Government Efficiency):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Government_Efficiency
on the new german “Sondervermögen” to invest in rearmament and infrastructure:
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-spend-big-on-army-and-infrastructure/a-71834527
on the 1920 International Financial Conference in Brussels:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_International_Financial_Conference_(1920)
on the 1922 Economic and Financial Conference in Genoa:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genoa_Economic_and_Financial_Conference_(1922)
on Google’s contract with the IDF:
https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/22/24349582/google-israel-defense-forces-idf-contract-gaza
Benanav, A. (2022). Socialist Investment, Dynamic Planning, and the Politics of Human Need. Rethinking Marxism, 34(2), 193–204.
https://doi.org/10.1080/08935696.2022.2051375
Sirianni, C. J. (1980). Workers’ Control in the Era of World War I: A Comparative Analysis of the European Experience. Theory and Society, 9(1), 29–88.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/656823
on the Landless Workers Movement in Brazil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landless_Workers%27_Movement
Braun, B. (2021) Central Bank Planning for Public Purpose. In: Fassin, D. and Fourcade, M. (eds.) Pandemic Exposures: Economy and Society in the Time of Coronavirus. HAU Books, pp. 105–121.
https://benjaminbraun.org/assets/pubs/braun_central-bank-planning-public-purpose.pdf
on the “Phillips Curve”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillips_curve
Arun K. Patnaik. (1988). Gramsci’s Concept of Common Sense: Towards a Theory of Subaltern Consciousness in Hegemony Processes. Economic and Political Weekly, 23(5).
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4378042
Thomas, P.D. (2015). Gramsci’s Marxism: The ‘Philosophy of Praxis’. In: McNally, M. (eds.) Antonio Gramsci. Critical Explorations in Contemporary Political Thought. Palgrave Macmillan.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137334183_6
on the US Solidarity Economy:
https://neweconomy.net/solidarity-economy/
the US Solidarity Economy Network:
https://ussen.org/
the US Solidarity Economy Map and Directory:
https://solidarityeconomy.us/
If you are interested in democratic economic planning, these resources might be of help:
Democratic planning – an information website
https://www.democratic-planning.com/
Sorg, C. & Groos, J. (eds.)(2025). Rethinking Economic Planning. Competition & Change Special Issue Volume 29 Issue 1.
https://journals.sagepub.com/toc/ccha/29/1
Groos, J. & Sorg, C. (2025). Creative Construction - Democratic Planning in the 21st Century and Beyond. Bristol University Press. [for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]
https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-construction
International Network for Democratic Economic Planning
https://www.indep.network/
Democratic Planning Research Platform:
https://www.planningresearch.net/
Future Histories Episodes on Related Topics
S03E29 | Nancy Fraser on Alternatives to Capitalism
https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e29-nancy-fraser-on-alternatives-to-capitalism/
S03E24 | Grace Blakeley on Capitalist Planning and its Alternatives
https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s03/e24-grace-blakeley-on-capitalist-planning-and-its-alternatives/
S02E08 | Thomas Biebricher zu neoliberaler Regierungskunst
https://www.futurehistories.today/episoden-blog/s02/e08-thomas-biebricher-zu-neoliberaler-regierungskunst/
Future Histories Contact & Support
If you like Future Histories, please consider supporting us on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistories
Contact: [email protected]
Twitter: https://twitter.com/FutureHpodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehpodcast/
Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@FutureHistories
English webpage:
https://futurehistories-international.com
Episode Keywords
#ClaraEMattei, #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #Austerity, #CentralBanks, #Capitalism, #Fascism, #Economics, #NeoclassicalEconomics, #HeterodoxEconomics, #PluralEconomics, #State, #CapitalistState, #Markets, #History, #SolidarityEconomy, #AntonioGramsci, #Gramsci, #Investment, #DemocraticPlanning, #DemocraticEconomicPlanning, #Derisking, #PoliticalEconomy, #EconomicHistory, #AuthoritarianLiberalism, #EconomicThought, #EconomicDemocracy
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