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Ian Rowe joins the Surfers to discuss more detailed findings from the on-going analyses he and Richard Parker are conducting on abnormal liver tests among patients in Leeds, UK.

In this episode, Ian discusses three specific findings that seem paradoxical but make complete sense. As Stephen points out several time over the course of the episode, this work demonstrates how complicated and challenging it it to find the fastest, most streamlined way to get each patient to the right diagnosis. Coupled with Mazen Noureddin's discussion in Episode 16, these two discussions demonstrate the value of non-invasive tests compared to biopsy while also demonstrating the tremendous room for growth in non-invasive testing, both in making better use of the tests we have and also developed better tests than those that exist today.