On today's episode, Liz Dolan talks to Greg Burke, a fellow '24 Fellow at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, about his path from growing up in St. Louis through print and television journalism to working at the Vatican serving as Pope Francis' chief spokesperson. Talk about career curves! Greg is currently teaching Communications at the IESE Business School in Barcelona

Here's Greg Burke's LinkedIn profile.

Here's information about the new board he serves on: Mary's Meals.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

In honor of Robert Redford, we introduce our first Lizness School Intergenerational Movie Challenge.

We both watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid https://www.amazon.com/Butch-Cassidy-Sundance-Paul-Newman/dp/B004EERGHS

Video: Life of Redford sent in by listener Sandy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1gCPtJg698

Info about Paul Newsman's camp for seriously ill kids: The Hole In The Wall Gang Camp https://www.holeinthewallgang.org

Info about The Sundance Institute founded by Robert Redford https://www.sundance.org

Video: Redford talks about the getting the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2npjQBRtc

Challenge for our next episode: Shrek.

Homework:

Liz recommends:

Sanjay Gupta’s Chasing Life episode in conversation with another neuroscientist Susan Greenfield about the long-term effect on our brain of living life on screens. https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/chasing-life/episodes/b8a997f4-37bb-11ef-8219-9f34dfc7bb1c

Is delegating tasks and even thinking to digital devices making us lose our minds, or at least some brain function? Dr. Sanjay Gupta and neuroscientist Baroness Susan Greenfield, Oxford University professor and author of “Mind Change: How Digital Technologies Are Leaving Their Mark on Our Brains,” discuss and debate how screen time might be impacting our human connections and own cognitive abilities. Plus, Greenfield gives us three ways to reclaim our digital independence. 

'Because of my age, I'm used to hugging people and living in three dimensions and using all five senses and interpreting body language. Because of that, I feel very sad when people seem to communicate, or put a premium mainly on how many so-called friends they've got, when really the friends are like some kind of Greek chorus who comment and need to be appeased and impressed and so on. So I think I'm worried a little bit about this generation, perhaps, that are uncomfortable in face-to-face communication because it's not an easy thing to do. And, the less you do it, the more aversive it becomes.

Leah recommends:

Sean Illing's podcast The Gray Area takes a philosophy minded look at culture, technology and ideas. This episode asks the question: Do you have moral ambition? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing/id1081584611 

We’re told from a young age to achieve. Get good grades. Get into a good school. Get a good job. Be ambitious about earning a high salary or a high-status position.

Some of us love this endless climb. But lots of us, at least once in our lives, find ourselves asking, "What’s the point of all this ambition?"Historian and author Rutger Bregman doesn’t think there is a point to that kind of ambition. Instead, he wants us to be morally ambitious, to measure the value of our achievements based on how much good we do, by how much we improve the world.

In this episode, Bregman speaks with guest host Sigal Samuel about how to know if you’re morally ambitious, the value of surrounding yourself with like-minded people, and how to make moral ambition fashionable.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.

Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild.

To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.

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