Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain

S4 E4 | 3 Steps to Heal Chronic Pain


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You know you have TMS. So now, what do you do? Great question. This episode revisits the three clear steps that heal chronic pain and chronic symptoms. We deep-dive into all three. Let your brain hear this. Then, you can apply what you learn. Then…you’ll start to feel your body healing.

In this Episode:

🔹 Understanding, internalizing, and believing the correct facts about chronic pain.

🔹 How to think psychologically, not physically.

🔹 Connecting your pain and your symptoms to your emotional life.

🔹 Accepting existential mystery in your healing and releasing the need to “understand” everything.

🔹 Learning how to redirect the “oh no” to “...okay.”

🔹 And, the hardest part: a thorough discussion about patiently attuning to your true self in order to heal your pain.

🔹 There are no bad parts. In today's analysis of "no bad parts," we get into some pretty extreme examples. And if you can develop empathy for a horrifying fascist, you can certainly develop empathy for yourself.

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Resources Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

The Way Out by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv

Mind Your Body by Nicole Sachs

No Bad Parts by Dr. Richard Schwartz

The Divided Mind by Dr. John Sarno

Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents by Dr. Lindsay Gibson

…and you’re listening to Mindbody Medicine for Chronic Pain.

Therapist Sean Hershey, LCSW teaches you how to use psychological and emotional modalities to heal from chronic pain. Common conditions treated: Back Pain, Neck Pain, Hip Pain, Shoulder Pain, Knee Pain, Elbow Pain, Pain from Disc Bulges, Pain from Disc Degeneration, Sciatica, Neuropathy, Chronic Headaches, Migraine, Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS), Pelvic Pain, Fibromyalgia, Many Eczema and Skin Conditions, Many Arthritic Presentations, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Long Covid, Depression, and Anxiety.

Inspired by the pioneering work of Dr. John Sarno and all who’ve built upon his theories including: Nicole Sachs, Christina Sarno Horner, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Dr. Dan Ratner, Alan Gordon, the ATNS, and so many others.

Join us as we discuss: TMS, pain as a danger signal, the pain/threat cycle, healing through psychological work, healing through emotional work, healing through patiently attuning to your true self, trauma, healing as a work in progress, maddening frustration, glimmers of hope, elating successes... But most of all, join us because you don’t have to be alone in your pain. You don’t have to be alone in the hard work of healing. And you don’t have to be alone as this starts to work for you, and you begin to get better.

We’re all walking this path together. We’re right here with you.

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