The Mind-Body Couple

What if the path to healing chronic fatigue syndrome and long COVID lies not in medication or supplements, but within our own minds? Discover how special guest Raelan Agle transformed her decade-long battle with chronic fatigue syndrome into a journey of recovery and empowerment. As the creator of a thriving YouTube channel, Raelan Agle shares the evolving stories of resilience and recovery, highlighting a critical shift towards understanding the interconnectedness of stress, emotions, and the autonomic nervous system. Together, we delve into the powerful role lifestyle choices, career paths, and self-perception play in the healing process, as individuals within the chronic illness community are increasingly recognizing the profound connection between emotional and physical well-being.

Join us in this enlightening conversation where we explore the revolutionary impact of neuroplasticity and brain retraining practices on chronic symptoms. Through engaging discussions, we reveal how these innovative approaches focus on internal transformation and creating a sense of safety and calm, offering a promising alternative to traditional treatments. Learn how brain retraining, initially designed for chronic pain, is now making waves in treating conditions like Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and long COVID by addressing the brain's response to perceived threats. We invite you to explore the diverse methods and resources available for those eager to embrace this forward-thinking approach to healing and reclaim their lives.

Learn more about Raelan Agle's work below:

Website - https://raelanagle.com/

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/RaelanAgle

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/raelan.agle/

My book - Finding Freedom: Escaping From the Prison of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome https://amzn.to/3LJcTgk

Course - Brain Retraining 101: For ME/CFS & Long Covid Recovery raelan-agle-s-school1.teachable.com/p/Brain_Retraining_101

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Ever wondered why your chronic pain or symptoms returns even after periods of relief? Learn the secrets to sustaining your healing journey and discover daily practices that can regulate your nervous system for the long run. We share compelling personal stories and client observations that reveal common pitfalls and emphasize the necessity of a lifestyle overhaul. From reshaping your thoughts and beliefs to brain retraining and creating social safety, we'll offer a comprehensive guide to maintaining these essential practices. Despite the effort required, the long-term benefits are undeniably worth it.

Unlock the power of Qigong and the refreshing effects of cold showers as part of your daily self-care routine. Tanner shares his personal experience with Qigong and provides resources on his YouTube channel to help you get started. We also uncover the surprising benefits of cold showers on your parasympathetic nervous system. Learn how co-regulation in nature and mindfulness of old coping mechanisms can further contribute to your well-being. Stay open to experimenting with new activities, like cold plunges or engaging with horses, to find what truly works for you. Join us for an inspiring conversation filled with practical tips to help you lead a balanced, healthy lifestyle.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Can pain and physical symptoms exist without any physical damage? Join us for a mind-bending exploration on the MindBodyCouple podcast as we unravel the mysteries of neuroplastic pain and symptoms. Hosts Tanner Murtaugh and Anne Hampson dive into the science behind chronic pain/symptoms, explaining how the brain can misinterpret harmless signals as threats, leading to real pain/symptoms despite the absence of injury. We break down complex concepts like "chronic primary pain" and "chronic secondary pain," revealing the brain's role in amplifying these sensations. You'll get a firsthand look at compelling studies, including the amusing yet enlightening "hairdryer study," demonstrating how our beliefs can shape our physical experience. 

Learn about groundbreaking treatments for neuroplastic pain and symptoms with Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT). We'll discuss a fascinating study where a simulated car crash triggered neck pain in participants, mirroring global chronic whiplash syndrome rates. Building on Dr. Sarno's pioneering work, we'll show you how altering beliefs and processing emotions can drastically improve chronic pain. Discover the impressive results of PRT, where a staggering 98% of participants reported pain reduction, and 66% became pain-free or nearly pain-free. We unpack the five essential factors for treating neuroplastic pain/symptoms and highlight the transformative somatic safety method. Tune in to equip yourself with the knowledge and techniques to start your journey toward a pain and symptom free living.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Can the mind really amplify pain even when your body is healed? Join us as we unravel this fascinating concept of neuroplastic pain and symptoms Fresh off our family trip to British Columbia, we share our travel adventures with young children and shift our focus to understanding the seven ways neuroplastic pain and symptoms develop. We dive deep into how pain signals can serve as meaningful messages rather than mere mistakes, and how recognizing these signals can lead to profound personal healing journeys.

Discover how stress, life transitions, and even high-intensity living contribute to chronic pain, and why processing emotions proactively is crucial. Learn about the intricate links between mental health issues like depression and anxiety with chronic pain, and the urgent need to address external factors that make us feel unsafe. By the end of this episode, you'll have a clearer understanding of how to manage chronic pain holistically and maintain both mental and physical well-being.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Ever wondered why animals seem to bounce back from stress so effortlessly, while humans often get stuck?

In this episode, Tanner and Anne dive deep into the science of trauma and the nervous system, guided by insights from experts like Peter Levine and Deb Dana. We'll explore how intentional movement can rewire our nervous systems from a state of chronic stress to one of connection and healing. Hear how animals naturally navigate fight, flight, and freeze responses, and learn why humans often struggle to do the same. With practical tips and heartfelt stories, we offer you actionable steps to start your journey toward emotional regulation and self-compassion. Whether you're new to somatic practices or looking to deepen your understanding, this episode is packed with valuable insights you won't want to miss.

Polyvagal Informed Qigong Group Details: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/polyvagal-informed-qigong-group

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Imagine spending years in search of a cure for chronic pain or symptoms, only to find the answer in an unexpected place. That's precisely what happened to us, Tanner and Anne, as we navigated the rocky terrain of mind-body healing. Join us on this episode of the MindBodyCouple podcast as we peel back the layers of our personal journeys and introduce you to the seven stages of healing. We kick things off by explaining why physical and diagnostic efforts are often the first stop for many people, including ourselves, and how this starting point sets the stage for a more profound exploration of mind-body connections.

Ever found yourself up late at night desperately Googling for answers? We did too, and it led us to the groundbreaking work of Dr. Sarno, which became a turning point in our healing paths. Listen as we share the steps we took to gather evidence, understand the mind-body link, and start experimenting with new approaches to pain treatment. We delve into the transformation that happens when you reduce avoidance behaviors and embrace cognitive safety messages. Finally, we talk about the exhilarating moment of fully committing to brain retraining and somatic practices, which brought us significant healing gains and a renewed sense of hope. Tune in for a compelling conversation filled with practical advice and inspiring stories that might just change how you approach your own healing journey.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

How do you reconcile with the idea that you may never be the person you once were? Join us as we unravel this tender and challenging journey, starting with a light-hearted update on our recent kid-free adventure and the charming Dumbo-themed birthday party we're planning for our son. We then pivot to a profound discussion on the impact of chronic pain and symptoms, often rooted in a lifetime of coping mechanisms. This episode emphasizes the necessity of grieving the loss of your former self and embracing new ways to manage and cope with chronic conditions, offering a compassionate perspective on acceptance and adjustment.

Living a high-intensity lifestyle driven by constant achievement can significantly contribute to health flares. Tanner shares a deeply personal story from his master's degree days, highlighting how relentless pursuit of perfection led to increased symptoms. We emphasize the importance of sustainable lifestyle changes, underscoring the value of resources like podcasts and YouTube meditations to foster a sense of safety for your brain and nervous system. 

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

Discover the secrets to a healthier, more balanced life as we share the transformative power of high vagal tone. We break down the crucial role of vagal tone in managing chronic pain, anxiety, IBS, and other health issues, and promise to arm you with practical strategies to enhance your own vagal tone. Through personal stories and heartfelt anecdotes, we reveal how small, consistent practices can lead to significant improvements in your well-being. This episode is packed with insights and experiences designed to guide you on your healing journey, making the path to a resilient nervous system both enjoyable and accessible.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

What happens when pain/symptoms flare up unexpectedly during your healing journey? Join us as Tanner shares a personal story about experiencing a sudden pain flare during a trip to Ontario, despite being well into his recovery. This episode unpacks why such flares happen, touching on conditioned responses, stress, and the importance of recognizing triggers. Tanner’s narrative is both relatable and illuminating, making it easier to understand the complexities behind pain flares.

We then guide you through a three-step process to manage these flares effectively. You'll learn how to identify the root cause without getting bogged down in over-analysis, recognize the contributing factors like nervous system state and emotions, and importantly, shift back to safety signals to reassure your nervous system. Real-life examples make these strategies accessible and actionable, empowering you with practical tools to navigate your own healing journey with confidence. Tune in for valuable insights and actionable advice on handling pain flares with poise and resilience.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.

What if understanding your pain or symptoms could actually be the key to healing? On this episode of the MindBodyCouple podcast, we tackle the often perplexing realm of pain and symptom flares, sharing insights that could transform your approach to chronic symptoms. We discuss the first part of our series on pain and symptom flares, focusing on the 4 main causes of pain or symptom flares.

This podcast is produced by Alex Klassen.

Together we have a therapy agency called Pain Psychotherapy Canada. Learn more about our work on our website and book in for a free 20 minute consultation with one of our therapists: https://www.painpsychotherapy.ca/

Our agency MBody Community provides an in depth course to support you in healing from chronic pain and symptoms: https://www.mbodycommunity.com/

We also post daily on instagram: @painpsychotherapy

Finally check out Tanner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@painpsychotherapy

Disclaimer: The information provided by Anne and Tanner on this podcast is for general informational and educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional advice, psychotherapy, or counselling. It you choose to utilize any of the education, strategies, or techniques in this podcast you are doing so at your own risk.

Education and techniques discussed in this Podcast originate from Polyvagal Theory, Pain Reprocessing Therapy, Somatic Experiencing, and Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy. Reference: Peter Levine, Deb Dana, Dr. Porges, Pain Reprocessing Therapy Center, Alan Gordon, Dr. Schubiner, and Dr. Lumley.