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This conversation includes the second half of Jörn Schattenberg's and Roger Green's interview with Donna Cryer. It focuses largely on Stephen's inclusive approaches towards bringing stakeholders to pivotal discussions. 

Donna starts this conversation by noting an important thing she learned early in her career: when patients, advocates and physicians work together, their collective power is far more than the sum of their individual impacts. She commends Stephen as one KOL who always made certain that patient voices (including Donna's) and organizations had seats and voices at the table. She says, "I will be forever grateful for all the times he held space..." to that Donna and other patients/advocates could be involved in a major discussion. 

Jörn concurs and notes that this podcast was a key element in sharing different stakeholders' perspectives throughout the entire MASLD community, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic when meetings were held virtually.  Finally, Roger notes that Stephen sought to include allied health providers the same way Donna describes him including patients and advocates.

When Roger asked for "Harrisonisms", Donna does not offer a specific one. Roger recalls Stephen's surprise that Roger knew the meaning of the phrase "Hoddy Toddy" to Ole Miss grads and how he quickly integrated phrases of others into his own conversations and presentations. WIth that, the interview ends.