OpenAI co-founder Sam Altman is returning as boss just days after he was fired by the board.

The team talk about the whole story: who he is, and who’s winning the AI arms race, with New York Times tech journalist Mike Isaac.

And – the lives of two turkeys, ‘Liberty and ‘Bell’, have been saved after they received a pardoning from Joe Biden in time for Thanksgiving.

A former White House chef reveals the favourite foods of past presidents.

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This episode was made by Chris Flynn with Alix Pickles, Catherine Fusillo and Claire Betzer. The technical producer was Ben Andrews. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.