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November 19, 2024From Corporate to Scaling Solo: Josh Watts’ Journey in Law & AI (EP 167)
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I had a fab and insightful chat with Josh Watts, founder of Run It By Legal, a commercial law firm specialising in the tech and telco space. Josh shares his unique journey from working in senior corporate roles to starting his own law firm during COVID, despite having been out of legal practice for years.
This conversation is packed with insights on:
The challenges of starting a firm without a client book or recent legal practice experience.
Why niching down in commercial law has been a game-changer for his firm’s growth.
The importance of building brand authority and how to overcome perfectionism when marketing your firm.
His experiences with AI in the legal space, including tools that save time on contract reviews and document analysis.
The hard lessons he’s learned about hiring, including why hiring a junior too soon didn’t work, and his plans for finding the perfect senior hire.
Josh also discusses his approach to B2B marketing, using targeted networking and industry visibility to attract his ideal clients. Plus, he shares how being part of the Scalable Business Lounge has kept him focused on growth and scaling.
If you’re a law firm owner looking to scale or someone curious about how tech is reshaping the legal profession, this episode is a must-listen.
Ready to take your law firm to the next level? Applications for the Scalable Law Accelerator Program are now open!

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44 min
November 12, 2024Building Your Legacy: Adele Anthony’s Journey from Law School to Thriving Practice Owner (EP 166)
In this inspiring episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, we welcome my longtime client and friend, Adele Anthony, founder of Your Legacy Lawyer. Adele shares her unique journey of starting her law firm later in life, proving that it’s never too late to follow your dreams. She talks about the freedom she’s created in her practice, her dedication to a niche in estate planning, and how she’s transformed challenges into growth opportunities.
Listen in as Adele discusses:
Why she pivoted from being an employee to launching her own firm at the age of 45
The power of niching down and building a brand that attracts high-quality clients
Lessons from her brief return to being an employee—and why she chose to come back to her own practice
Her bold move to raise prices and attract clients who truly value her expertise
The importance of aligning your business with your lifestyle goals
This episode is packed with insights for anyone thinking about starting their own firm or current law firm owners looking to create more freedom in their practice. Don't miss Adele’s story of resilience, purpose, and living life on her own terms!
If you’re interested in scaling your own law firm and want to learn more about how to make 2025 your best year yet, applications for the Scalable Law Firm Accelerator Program are now open! Apply HERE!

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46 min
November 04, 2024From Solo Practice to Thriving Team: Tayla Kilkeary’s Law Firm Growth Journey (EP 165)
In this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast, I had a fantastic chat with Tayla Kilkeary, founder of Avokah Legal, who shares her inspiring journey from starting a solo practice just two years ago to leading a thriving law firm team. Tayla opens up about her decision to branch out on her own, her smart approach to marketing, and how she’s transitioned from “lawyer” to “CEO” to manage her firm’s rapid growth.
Whether you're considering starting your own firm or looking to scale your current practice, Tayla's story is packed with valuable insights on building a sustainable, profitable law firm. Don’t miss this conversation on attracting quality clients, investing in the right team, and creating a work culture that supports growth.
Learn More:
Tayla’s unique approach to building her brand and client base
How niching down in family law accelerated her growth
Caralee’s tips on transitioning from practitioner to business leader
Thinking of scaling your firm?
Accelerator Program are now open for January 2025! If you're ready to streamline your operations, grow your team, and create more freedom for yourself as a law firm owner, this program is for you. Join a community of like-minded law firm owners and get the guidance and tools you need to make 2025 your best year yet. Apply HERE!

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29 min
October 29, 2024From Employee to Partner: A Journey to Law Firm Ownership with Carley Ronan (EP 164)
In today’s episode, we’re talking about the unique journey of moving from employee to law firm partner. I’m joined by one of my fabulous Scalable Law clients, Carley Ronan director of Holt Ronan Lawyers, who has transformed her role from a long-term employee to a named partner in her firm.
Carley's story is inspiring and shows that there are many ways to become a law firm owner—it doesn’t always mean starting from scratch. Whether you’re currently an associate looking to step up or you're already managing a firm and thinking about succession planning, you’ll find tons of valuable insights in this episode.
Practical Tips and Inspiration:
The Path from Employee to Partner: Carley shares her journey working at the same firm for over a decade, becoming a partner, and now co-leading the business.
Transitioning into Leadership: How she shifted her mindset from being a senior lawyer to a firm leader, building authority both internally and externally.
Balancing Law Firm Ownership with a Young Family: Carley opens up about managing a young family while growing her firm, and how she’s found balance through mentorship and planning.
The Power of Building Your Own Network: Instead of relying on the established network of her older partner, Carley explains how she cultivated her own relationships and built her authority in the community.
Scaling the Firm for the Future: We also discuss Carley’s vision for the firm’s growth, how she plans to systematise more tasks, and her strategy for bringing on new team members.
If you’re a lawyer or a firm owner who's in a transition phase or contemplating growth, this conversation will provide both practical tips and inspiration.
Want to learn more about scaling your firm and finding that perfect balance? Book a Strategy Call with me.

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34 min
October 25, 2024How to Attract Top Legal Talent in a Competitive Market (EP 163)
The biggest challenge facing law firm owners today—how to attract the right talent!
Welcome back to another episode of the Scalable Law Podcast! Today we're taking on one of the biggest challenges facing law firm owners today's competitive market—how to attract and retain top legal talent. Whether you're a solo practitioner looking to hire your first team member or managing a larger firm struggling to fill vacancies, this episode is packed with insights that can help.
Recently at ClioCon in Austin, I spoke with lawyers from the US, Canada, and Australia, and no matter the practice area or location, law firms everywhere are struggling to bring on skilled lawyers.
So, let’s crack the code on why this is happening and, more importantly, what you can do about it!
The Talent Shortage: Why it's harder than ever to find good lawyers and what you can do to stand out as a top employer.
Changing Work Preferences: How COVID has shifted employee expectations toward work-life balance and flexibility, and what your firm can offer.
Competitive Compensation: Strategies to stay competitive in the job market without breaking the bank.
Building a Positive Firm Culture: Why your firm's reputation is key and how you can showcase your culture to attract the right talent.
Tech-Driven Firms: Why adopting modern legal tech makes your firm more attractive to top talent.
Progression and Growth: How to create clear career pathways to retain and grow your team.
It’s not just about offering high salaries anymore—it’s about creating an environment where talented lawyers want to work and can thrive. I’ll also share the strategies I’ve implemented at my own firm, Collective Family Law, to create a winning culture and attract the right talent.
Join me in this episode to learn how you can scale your team while maintaining your law firm's profitability and growth. Book a free strategy call with me today!
Tune in now and let’s get started!

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22 min
September 18, 2024 Stop Complaining About Your Team and Do This Instead (EP 162)
Welcome back to the Scalable Law Podcast! Today we’re talking about a big topic that I know resonates with so many law firm owners: the struggle with team dynamics. Have you ever found yourself saying, "No one cares as much as I do," or "There are no good team members out there"? If that sounds familiar, this episode is a must-listen!
Ready to transform your team dynamics and elevate your leadership? Let’s dive in and discover how you can stop the cycle of complaints and start leading your team to success!
The Common Denominator – Spoiler alert: It’s you!
Think your team is the problem? Think again. We’ll dive deep into how your leadership style, communication habits, and the expectations you set might be contributing to the challenges within your team.
Flip the Script on Team Complaints – From Frustration to Growth
It’s easy to fall into the trap of constant complaints about your team. But what if those frustrations could be your greatest growth opportunities? These actionable tips will help you create a thriving, positive work environment where everyone knows their role and feels empowered to succeed.
Lead, Don’t Micromanage – Letting Go to Gain More
We’ll break down the negative impacts of micromanagement and give you practical strategies to pivot towards a leadership style that promotes autonomy and proactivity. Learn how to set up systems that work, so you can step back and let your team shine.
Foster a Culture of Ownership – Engaging Your Team with Vision and Recognition
When your team understands the bigger picture, magic happens. This segment is all about aligning your team with your firm’s vision, setting clear expectations, and recognising their contributions to build a culture of ownership and accountability.
Take your firm and leadership skills to the next level! Let’s chat about how we can work together to build the thriving, profitable, and free practice you deserve! Book a Free Strategy Call with me!
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26 min
September 12, 2024 Ready to Take Control of Your Firm's Financial Future? (EP 161)
Hey there, welcome back to another episode of the Scalable Law Podcast! Today, we’re diving into a topic that so many law firm owners find challenging—setting financial goals. Let’s be honest; managing the business side of your practice can feel overwhelming, especially when you’re wearing all the hats!
In this episode, we’re unpacking why setting financial goals is such a hurdle for many law firm owners and, more importantly, exploring practical steps you can take to turn this challenge into an opportunity. From the common struggles like lack of financial literacy and getting lost in the daily grind, to powerful law firm marketing strategies that will help you gain control of your firm’s financial direction—I’ve got you covered.
Taking Charge of Your Law Firm’s Financial Future! We’ll explore:

Why financial planning feels daunting for many law firm owners: Law firm owners often lack business training, making financial planning seem overwhelming. Juggling client work and daily tasks leaves little room for strategic goal-setting.
The simple yet effective steps you can take to set realistic financial goals: Start with small, achievable targets like increasing case values or cutting costs. Regularly schedule financial planning sessions to turn goal-setting into a consistent practice.
How to use data to drive decisions and measure your success: Leverage your firm’s data from practice management tools to set realistic goals and track progress. Metrics like revenue per matter and client acquisition costs provide clear direction.
The power of starting small, celebrating wins, and embracing accountability: Set manageable goals, celebrate your progress, and share your targets with a mentor or coach. Accountability and recognition keep you motivated and on track toward bigger financial achievements.
Don’t let financial planning hold you back. Let’s talk about how we can turn your financial aspirations into actionable steps for success. Book a free strategy call with me today!
Tune in now and let’s get started!

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26 min
September 03, 2024Unlocking New Opportunities- The Benefits of Adding Your Law Firm to Free Directory Listings (EP 160)
Welcome back to the Scalable Law Podcast! After a fabulous trip to the US and an inspiring retreat in Fiji, I’m back with fresh insights for your law firm's growth. 🎉
Today, we're diving into a cost-effective strategy many overlook free directory listings. Whether you’re just starting out or looking to expand your client base without a huge budget, these listings can significantly boost your online visibility, credibility, and SEO.
Free Directory Listings – A Game Changer for Your Law Firm
This is something I recently discussed with a solo law firm owner who is struggling to get clients on a shoestring budget. He couldn't join the Scalable Business Lounge just yet, but I didn’t want him (or anyone in that situation) to miss out on actionable advice that could truly move the needle.
Many of us might remember what it was like to start out—low budgets, lots of effort, and that nagging feeling of not knowing where to begin. If that’s where you are, or if you're looking for some savvy ways to boost your traffic without spending a fortune, this episode is for you!
Why Free Directory Listings Matter
Directory listings are a fantastic way to gain visibility and credibility for your law firm. Here’s where free directory listings can make a real difference:
Boost Online Visibility
Enhance Credibility
Attract Targeted Traffic
Improve Local SEO Rankings
Generate Client Reviews
Cost-Effective Marketing
Network and Referral Opportunities

Best Practices for Getting Started with Free Directory Listings
Prepare Your Profile in Advance
Encourage Reviews
Monitor Your Listings
Plus, I’ve compiled a list of top directories you can use today! Click here.

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23 min
August 20, 2024Does Your Firm Need More Clients? Do This One Thing! (EP 159)
Welcome back to another episode of the Scalable Law Podcast! Today we’re taking on one of the biggest challenges law firm owners face: attracting more clients. If you’ve been pouring time and money into marketing efforts but aren’t seeing the results you hoped for, you’re not alone. The problem might not be your budget or your effort—it’s your message.
In this episode, I’ll share how refining your marketing message can make all the difference in attracting the right clients to your firm. A broad, unfocused message might cast a wide net, but it often fails to connect with potential clients truly. By narrowing your focus and targeting your message, you can create a more effective small law firm marketing strategy that brings in clients who are a perfect fit for your firm.
The Power of a Targeted Marketing Message:
Why a broad message isn’t as effective as a targeted one.
How a specific marketing message can resonate more deeply with potential clients.
Defining Your Target Audience:
Identify Your Ideal Client Profile: Consider the clients you’ve served best and use this profile to tailor your message.
Understand Their Pain Points: Address the specific challenges your ideal clients face, positioning your firm as the solution.
Research Your Competition: Learn from other firms, but find your unique angle to stand out.
Crafting a Compelling Marketing Message:
Be Clear and Specific: Ditch the jargon and focus on clear, concise language that speaks directly to your audience.
Highlight Your Unique Selling Proposition (USP): Showcase what sets your firm apart, whether it’s your expertise, service, or innovative approach.
Showcase Success Stories: Build trust by sharing testimonials and case studies that demonstrate your firm’s success.
Implementing Your Targeted Marketing Strategy:
Choose the Right Channels: Focus on the platforms where your ideal clients are most active.
Test and Iterate: Continuously refine your message based on what works best.
Monitor Your Metrics: Keep track of lead generation, conversion rates, and other key metrics to ensure effective marketing.
Unlocking Growth and Freedom:
How a targeted marketing message can lead to better client relationships, increased referrals, and more sustainable growth for your firm.
The importance of freeing up time and resources by ensuring your marketing is hitting the mark.
If you’re ready to transform your small law firm marketing strategies and start attracting more of the right clients, let’s work together! Book a free strategy call with me today, and let’s discuss how we can refine your marketing efforts to unlock your firm’s full potential.
Thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Scalable Law Podcast. If you found this episode valuable, please share it with your colleagues and leave us a review. Stay tuned for more insights and strategies to help you grow your law firm.
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25 min
August 13, 2024How to Maintain Your Law Firm’s Reputation with a Remote Team (EP 158)
Welcome back to another episode of the Scalable Law Podcast! I'm thrilled to have you here today as we dive into the final instalment of our three-part series on running a remote law firm.
If you haven't listened to the previous episodes on How to Keep Your Law Firm Safe From Data and Confidentiality Breaches and How To Prevent Anxiety About Team Productivity and Accountability, I highly recommend going back and giving them a listen.
Working remotely presents unique challenges, but with the right strategies, you can maintain your standards and continue to thrive.
Here Are Some Key Approaches To Overcome These Stresses
Establish Clear Communication Protocols
Schedule weekly updates to keep clients informed. Consistent Communication Channels. Use reliable methods like email, video conferencing, and phone calls.
Ensure High-Quality Service Delivery
Develop Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) to ensure consistent service delivery. Implement mechanisms to review work and maintain high standards.
Foster Strong Client Relationships
Encourage attorneys to build personal connections with clients. Regularly solicit client feedback to improve service delivery– like leaving a review on Google.
Promote a Client-Centric Culture
Emphasise client satisfaction and align team goals with client needs. Client-Centric Goals. Prioritise client satisfaction in all firm activities.
Enhance Firm Visibility and Reputation
Maintain an active online presence through a professional website, blogs, and social media. Thought Leadership. Encourage participation in legal publications, conferences, and webinars.
Monitor and Measure Performance
Track KPIs related to client satisfaction, case outcomes, and employee productivity. Conduct regular performance reviews to ensure standards are met.
Cultivate a Positive Firm Culture
Foster an inclusive and positive environment. Recognise and reward remote employees for their contributions.
Utilise Technology for Client Interaction
Implement secure portals for clients to access documents and communicate with their attorneys. Use tools like Zoom or Microsoft Teams for personal and engaging interactions.
By implementing these strategies, law firms can effectively manage remote employees while maintaining strong client relationships and protecting their reputations.
If you need help implementing any of these strategies in your law firm, Let’s talk. Book a strategy call with me.
Thank you for tuning in today. I hope you have a fabulous week ahead, and I’ll see you soon. Bye for now!

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21 min