Secret Sonics

Secret Sonics

By Ben Wallick and Carl BahnerEducationSelf-ImprovementMusicMusic Interviews
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Secret Sonics episodes

  • #256 - The Subtle Art of Layering Percussion
    Ben and Carl share some of the techniques they use to add percussive depth without cluttering your mix. Learn why texture beats rhythm, how to stretch samples for supernatural groove, and the specific workflow for making percussion serve your song instead of competing with it.



    Discover:
    • Why Carl’s orchestral training taught him to add texture instead of rhythm to modern pop mixes
    • How time-stretching a sample creates unique transient effects you can’t get any other way
    • How adding one extra rhythmic element can destroy the unison power of an entire mix
    • The Middle Eastern groove Ben constructed sample by sample because no loop existed for what he needed
    • When to mute it and boot it if your percussion isn’t making the song better

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/





    27 min
  • #255 - Energy Vampires Are Killing Your Career
    What happens when a successful music producer realizes he’s been working with the wrong people for years? Carl reveals the moment everything changed after his first child was born, and why he now prioritizes client personalities over everything else. The conversation gets deep about energy vampires, family priorities, and a surprising truth about word-of-mouth referrals.



    Discover:
    • Why Carl went from doing 150 shows a year to being extremely picky about clients after having kids
    • The exact moment he realized $50 bar gigs weren’t worth his time or energy anymore
    • Why that ridiculously talented Berkeley guitarist everyone knows is actually bad for business
    • The surprising reason word-of-mouth referrals can trap you with similar low-quality clients
    • How to recognize if you’re being a pushover with difficult clients who love unlimited revisions

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/


    29 min
  • #254 - The Shelf-Life of Major Credits
    Learn the three essential principles that turn your biggest credits into sustainable income, why Grammy winners still struggle to find work, and how to position yourself so clients see your rate as a steal instead of an expense. Carl shares real strategies from working with 15+ Grammy-winning students who came to him for business help.



    Discover:
    • The uncomfortable reality that major awards have expiration dates for client attraction
    • How the music industry shifted from 4,000 annual albums in 1970 to 100,000 daily uploads
    • Why high-end mixing engineers charge based on peace of mind rather than sound quality
    • The four client decision levels from price-shopping to relationship-based hiring
    • How major label timelines create cascading risks worth paying premium rates to avoid
    • Why existing clients resist rate increases but new clients accept higher starting prices

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/




    44 min
  • #253 - Dave Stagl: Leaving Artists Speechless with Dolby Atmos
    Learn why one of the most experienced immersive audio engineers believes most people are approaching Dolby Atmos completely wrong, and discover the emotional framework that’s helping artists create deeper connections with their fans. Plus, find out what producers should actually look for when hiring an Atmos engineer and why checking mixes in multiple formats could transform your workflow.


    Discover:
    • The exact moment in a House of Blues monitor setup that shaped how he thinks about immersive audio
    • Why he now derives every stereo mix from an Atmos version instead of working the other way around
    • The technical reason Atmos mixes have more dynamic range and why that creates stronger emotional impact
    • What happens when artists flip between stereo and Atmos versions on Apple devices and why that changes everything
    • The calibration approach that lets him mix without looking at meters for the first time in 20 years
    • The difference between engineers who got into Atmos for work versus those who got into it for the experience
    • How he sends preview files to remote artists without requiring them to read instruction manuals
    • Why he believes car audio will be the thing that separates real Atmos engineers from headphone-only mixers
    Learn more about Dave: https://staglsound.com/

    Follow Dave: http://instagram.com/davidstagl


    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/




    57 min
  • #252 - The NEW Business of Mixing
    What happens when a mixing engineer accidentally builds clients in 30 countries while living in Pennsylvania? Carl discovered that global currency differences and economic crashes might be the secret weapon most audio professionals are completely ignoring.


    Discover:
    • Why COVID permanently shifted the industry away from big city studios
    • How global economic instability can actually stabilize a mixing engineer’s income
    • How mixing engineers became accidental project managers for self-produced artists
    • The math behind why international diversification beats local word-of-mouth
    • When Carl recommends other engineers to look like a hero to their clients

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    39 min
  • #251 - Context Context Context (Vocals Pt2)
    What makes a vocal feel perfectly placed… or totally disconnected?

    This week, we’re getting way past plugin chains and diving into the real work of vocal mixing: context. We’re talking about how to make vocals live in a mix, not just sit on top of it. Because getting a vocal to shine isn’t just about EQ moves - it’s about storytelling, space, and knowing who gets the spotlight in each moment.

    We explore how we mix vocals completely differently - yet still aim for the same emotional clarity - and even find ourselves (gasp) passionately disagreeing about Vampire Weekend.



    Discover:
    • Why the instrumental is the first thing we fix when vocals don’t feel right
    • The “lead vocal vs. background vocal” question we think is kind of a trap
    • The one question Carl asks in every section of every song
    • When to make vocals felt not heard (and how that changes your mix decisions)
    • Why we don’t always high-pass vocals—and what we do instead
    • The subtle sidechain trick that helps your vocals breathe without boosting them
    • When sharing reverbs between vocals and instruments makes your mix snap together
    • The difference between using reverb for space vs. character
    • Carl’s favorite compressor to kill backing vocal transients (in a good way)
    • What mixing has to do with stage plays, ransom letters, and emotional punch

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/





    44 min
  • #250 - Are We Making Vocals Too Perfect? (Pt1)
    Two cranky engineers accidentally reveal why your technically perfect vocals sound emotionally dead

    In this episode, Ben and Carl dive into why the "mistakes" you're fixing might be the only thing keeping your vocals human. From pre-production psychology to multi-de-esser philosophy, they challenge everything you think you know about processing vocals.


    Discover:
    • How over-rehearsed bands sabotage their own records (and why pop artists need completely different rules)
    • Reading the room and matching your approach to the artist's psychology
    • Why perfect tuning kills emotion and when to leave the "mistakes" in
    • Why using multiple light processors beats one heavy one (and Carl's controversial multi-de-esser approach)
    • How deliberately bad cuts make choruses hit like trucks

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    25 min
  • #249 - Are We Hearing the Bass, or Just Feeling It? (Pt2)
    In this episode, Ben & Carl get into the gritty business of making bass actually work in a mix. Not just technically — but emotionally, musically, and physically. We challenge each other’s instincts, admit when we’re wrong, and debate who should own the sub: the bass or the kick?

    Spoiler: it depends — but we each have our go-to moves and a few spicy disagreements.


    Discover:
    • Whether bass should be felt, heard… or both
    • The kick vs. bass power struggle (and how we each resolve it)
    • Why sub-bass and electric bass don’t always play nice
    • Dynamic EQ, sidechaining, and the art of subtle carving
    • What frequencies actually matter most for bass perception
    • “I Used to Be Cool” — and other producer identity crises

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/

    27 min
  • #248 - Our Wildly Different Bass Philosophies (Pt1)
    We didn’t mean to go this deep—but here we are.

    This week, we cracked open the bass rabbit hole and just kept falling. What started as a casual chat about tracking techniques quickly turned into a full-on audio archaeology dig. Fingerstyle vs. pick. Flatwounds vs. roundwounds. Phase issues. Amp sims. DI regrets. When to tune your bass like it’s a vocal. And why the right bass might be a $300 violin-shaped Epiphone that makes your P-Bass sound like a string bean.

    This is Part 1. Next week, we’ll take all this nerdy goodness and show you how it interacts with everything else in the mix—drums, vocals, space, sub, punch, width, grit.


    Discover:
    • Why we sometimes tune bass like it’s a vocal
    • The $300 Epiphone that destroyed a Fender P-Bass in a shootout
    • How adding chorus to bass can actually make it sound tighter
    • The reason your 808s keep disappearing—and how to fix it
    • Fingerstyle, pick, thumb, palm mute: how your hand technique makes the biggest difference

    Ben and Carl's Weekly Inspiration Playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IpnxDVoTY44JBV1j19H4h?si=0f80e020d8ae497e

    LA Wildfire Relief:
    Musicares - https://donor.musicares.org/page/lafirerelief
    WAMTN - https://give.wearemovingtheneedle.org/campaign/654724/donate


    Learn more about StudioLand - https://www.welcometostudioland.com/a/2147995182/bmyFf8p5

    Download our free guide: "The Future-Proof Mixing Engineer: 8 Essential Skills for 2024 and Beyond" - https://mpe-ebook.benwallick.com/future-proof-mixing


    Connect with us:

    Secret Sonics - https://www.instagram.com/secretsonics
    Ben - https://www.instagram.com/benwallickmusic/
    Carl - https://www.instagram.com/carlbahner/

    Learn more:

    https://www.benwallick.com/
    https://www.carlbahner.com/


    This episode with edited by Gavi Kutliroff - https://www.instagram.com/pleasant_peasant_music/





    26 min

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