In this harrowing episode we uncover the deeply disturbing case of William and Zachary Zulock — a seemingly picture-perfect couple from Georgia who adopted two young boys, only to exploit and abuse them in the most vile ways imaginable.

Behind their carefully curated social media presence was a world of unthinkable depravity. The Zulocks weren’t just unfit parents — they were predators, using their position of trust and protection to commit unspeakable crimes. As the investigation unfolded, what authorities discovered would horrify even the most seasoned detectives and leave a community in shock.

Join us as we break down the timeline of events, the evidence that led to their arrest, and the questions that still linger about how this couple was ever allowed to adopt in the first place. This is a story of betrayal, systemic failure, and a fight for survival that’s only just begun.

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In this harrowing episode we uncover the deeply disturbing case of William and Zachary Zulock — a seemingly picture-perfect couple from Georgia who adopted two young boys, only to exploit and abuse them in the most vile ways imaginable.

Behind their carefully curated social media presence was a world of unthinkable depravity. The Zulocks weren’t just unfit parents — they were predators, using their position of trust and protection to commit unspeakable crimes. As the investigation unfolded, what authorities discovered would horrify even the most seasoned detectives and leave a community in shock.

Join us as we break down the timeline of events, the evidence that led to their arrest, and the questions that still linger about how this couple was ever allowed to adopt in the first place. This is a story of betrayal, systemic failure, and a fight for survival that’s only just begun.

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Folie à deux, or “madness of two", is a rare psychological phenomenon where delusion is shared between two closely connected people. Think siblings. Think twins.

This week, we reopen one of the most bizarre and unsettling cases we’ve ever covered: the story of Sabina and Ursula Eriksson. Twin sisters whose shared descent into chaos left witnesses stunned, authorities baffled, and one man dead.

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50-year-old Simon Vickers was the very definition of a devoted father. He lived in a modest suburban semi just outside of Darlington in County Durham with his long-time partner, Sarah Hall, and their 14-year-old daughter, Scarlett. Friends described him as hands-on, affectionate, and utterly devoted to his only child.

So why then, on the evening of July 5th, while Sarah stood at the stove cooking spaghetti Bolognese for her family, did Simon drive a kitchen knife eleven centimetres into Scarlett’s chest?

Why would a loving father turn into a killer in the blink of an eye? What darkness was simmering beneath the surface of this seemingly ordinary home?

In this episode, we peel back the layers of this devastating family tragedy as we attempt to answer these questions.

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We originally covered this case way back in 2022 when Bethan went solo while Mark was on holiday. Fast forward three years, and there is so much more that has come out since.

This week we both dive into the the case of the Long Island serial killer.

When the remains of ten bodies were found in late 2010 and early 2011, detectives were faced with the haunting prospect that they were hunting a serial killer. Years of frustration followed as the investigation moved at a sluggish pace but then in 2023, a year after Bethan recorded her episode, there was a breakthrough when a seemingly respectable family man was charged with seven of the murders.

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In a quiet Florida neighbourhood, three members of one family were found dead in their home. Behind the tragedy lies a story of obsession, betrayal, and a descent into darkness that no one saw coming. This is the Amato family murder case… and nothing about it is what it seems.

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This week, in a special listener-written episode, we head back to the late 1990's, and to the medieval city of Chester, as we recount the final hours of father of two Alan Morris.

On 30 December 1998, Alan had been out with his partner, Jane Rowe, and their friend, Nigel Jones, enjoying a few drinks at a local pub.

During an altercation at a Chinese restaurant at approximately 11:30pm, Alan and Jayne argued briefly. That argument continued when they got home. As Jayne went upstairs for 30 seconds in the early hours of 31 December, Alan was brutally stabbed to death outside the house.

Just who was responsible for his murder? And why would anyone want to execute a loving family man in cold blood? Join us as we attempt to unravel what really happened on that fateful night.

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In this episode, we dive into the harrowing true story behind author Alice Sebold’s 1981 rape and the decades-later revelation of a devastating miscarriage of justice. Sebold, best known for her memoir Lucky and the novel The Lovely Bones, identified Anthony Broadwater as her attacker, leading to his conviction in 1982. However, Broadwater always maintained his innocence.

This episode examines the long-term impact on both Sebold and Broadwater, raising critical questions about memory, systemic racism, and the justice system’s failures — and what it means to confront truth years after a crime.

The excellent ITV drama Mark mentions in this episode, Undeniable, is available to stream on Amazon Prime Video. The series can also be purchased on Apple TV.

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In this episode, we examine the shocking 2014 murder of beloved teacher Ann Maguire, who was fatally stabbed by a student during a lesson at a Leeds school. We explore the background of the attacker, the warning signs, and the impact this tragedy had on the community.

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