Seeing Red A True Crime Podcast

In October 2022, an emergency call brought police and paramedics to a home in Deptford, south-east London. What they found inside would lead to a deeply disturbing investigation.

At the centre of the case was Kelly Neill, a former stroke nurse and devoted mother whose life had changed dramatically in the years leading up to that October day.

But as investigators began to piece together what had been happening inside the property, troubling questions emerged about Kelly’s final months — and about the people she had depended upon most.

This week on Seeing Red, we tell the story of Kelly Neill: who she was, how her life changed, and the disturbing circumstances that would ultimately bring police to her home.

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Seeing Red returns for Season 16 with the shocking murder of Detective Constable Stephen Oake, a Greater Manchester Police officer killed in the line of duty.

On 14 January 2003, 40-year-old Stephen Oake joined fellow officers on a raid at a flat in Crumpsall, Manchester. What should have been a carefully controlled police operation descended into violence when they encountered Kamel Bourgass, a man linked to a major terrorism investigation.

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In 2006, nurse Ben Geen was convicted of murdering two patients and seriously harming 15 others while working at Horton General Hospital in Banbury, Oxfordshire. Prosecutors said Geen deliberately injected patients with potentially lethal drugs before reveling in the medical emergencies that followed. He was sentenced to life imprisonment and ordered to serve a minimum of 30 years.

Geen has always maintained his innocence.

This week, Seeing Red revisits one of the most fascinating and unsettling medical murder cases we've covered.

Before the original episode begins, Mark returns with a new 10–15 minute update.

With the Lucy Letby case continuing to dominate headlines and raise difficult questions about how suspected medical murders are identified and investigated, Mark looks again at the evidence against Geen — and asks whether his conviction still feels as compelling as it once did.

He also explores the striking parallels between Geen and Letby; why hospital managers can appear reluctant to involve the police even when staff suspect a colleague may be harming patients; the extraordinary coincidence involving Geen and an actress playing a killer nurse in Holby City; and whether Mark's growing doubts about the Letby convictions have made him question Ben Geen's guilt too.

Plus, an unfortunate encounter between a syringe and Geen's jacket prompts Mark to revisit some highly questionable medical terminology from the original episode.

The original Seeing Red episode then follows, newly remastered and lightly edited.

Ben Geen: guilty beyond reasonable doubt — or could one of Britain's most notorious killer nurses actually be innocent?

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In 2008, nurse Colin Norris was convicted of murdering four elderly patients and attempting to murder another at two hospitals in Leeds. Prosecutors said Norris deliberately injected vulnerable women with insulin, causing sudden and unexplained episodes of severe hypoglycaemia. He was sentenced to life imprisonment with a minimum term of 30 years.

Norris has always maintained his innocence.

This week, Seeing Red revisits one of Britain's most disturbing — and increasingly controversial — medical murder cases.

Before the original episode begins, Mark returns with a new 10–15 minute update.

With the Lucy Letby case continuing to raise difficult questions about medical evidence, statistics and the investigation of unexpected hospital deaths, Mark looks again at the case against Norris — including the evidence that once appeared to make his guilt overwhelming, and the developments that have since led some experts to question whether the women he was convicted of harming were murdered at all.

He also revisits Norris's deeply troubling behaviour away from the alleged murders: the personality traits identified following his arrest, his extraordinary treatment of his own cat, and the chilling comments he made while under suspicion. And if some of the medical evidence against Norris is now open to challenge, how much weight should we give to behaviour that seems almost impossible to explain away?

Plus, Mark considers what the cases of Norris, Ben Geen and Lucy Letby can tell us about one of the most difficult questions in modern criminal justice: how do you prove that a healthcare professional is deliberately killing patients when the alleged murders can look remarkably like natural medical emergencies?

The original Seeing Red episode then follows, newly remastered and lightly edited.

Colin Norris was convicted as one of Britain's most notorious killer nurses. Nearly two decades later, is his guilt still beyond reasonable doubt?

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In July 1989, 21-year-old actress Rebecca Schaeffer was on the brink of a major Hollywood career. Best known for the hit sitcom My Sister Sam, she was preparing to audition for a role in The Godfather Part III when there was a knock at the door of her Los Angeles home.

On the other side was Robert John Bardo — an obsessed fan who had been stalking Rebecca for years.

What happened next would send shockwaves through Hollywood, expose frightening gaps in America's privacy laws and ultimately change the way stalking was understood and prosecuted.

For the Season 15 finale of Seeing Red, we're doing something a little different. This is a Seeing Red x Dead Famous crossover: true crime meets celebrity as we explore not only Rebecca's murder and the disturbing obsession that led to it, but the young woman behind the famous face, her rapidly rising career, the final hours of her life, the investigation that followed and the extraordinary legacy of a case that helped change American law.

🎙️ Dead Famous, Mark's critically acclaimed podcast exploring the extraordinary lives, deaths and legacies of some of the world's most famous people, releases new episodes every Monday. Search Dead Famous wherever you get your podcasts.

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On 2 August 1973, thousands of holidaymakers were enjoying an evening at Summerland, a vast state-of-the-art leisure complex on the seafront in Douglas, Isle of Man. Within minutes, it had become the scene of one of the deadliest fires in modern British history.

What began as a small fire outside the building spread with terrifying speed, fuelled by highly combustible materials used in Summerland's construction. As flames engulfed the complex, families desperately tried to escape. By the end of the night, 50 people had lost their lives and scores more had been injured.

But the Summerland disaster was more than a tragic accident. Questions would soon emerge about the design of the building, fire precautions, evacuation procedures and a catalogue of decisions that had left thousands of people dangerously vulnerable.

This week on Seeing Red, we revisit the devastating Summerland fire: how a holiday attraction billed as a futuristic paradise became an inferno, the lives lost that night, the investigation that followed, the eye witness testimony from survivors, and why one of the worst peacetime fire disasters in British history has largely faded from public memory.

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On 21 December 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was flying from London to New York when a bomb exploded on board as the aircraft passed over the Scottish town of Lockerbie.

All 259 passengers and crew were killed, along with 11 people on the ground. With 270 lives lost, the Lockerbie bombing remains the deadliest terrorist attack ever carried out on British soil.

But nearly four decades later, the story of Lockerbie is far from over.

As the case returns to the headlines and a new trial approaches in the United States, we revisit one of the most significant and complex stories ever covered on Seeing Red.

Who was responsible for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103? How did investigators piece together an extraordinary international investigation from the wreckage scattered across hundreds of square miles? And why, 38 years later, do questions surrounding Lockerbie continue to provoke controversy?

As Seeing Red marks its eighth anniversary, we're looking back at some of the cases that have stayed with us long after we first covered them — beginning with a tragedy that changed hundreds of families, a small Scottish town, and the history of international terrorism forever.

This is Lockerbie.

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This week on Seeing Red, we investigate the chilling case of Adam Hall – a man whose crimes would leave a devastating trail across the North East of England.

Behind closed doors, Hall was hiding a secret from the men he met. But as disturbing allegations began to emerge, investigators would uncover something far more calculated – and far more horrifying – than anyone had initially imagined.

What followed was an extraordinary investigation involving multiple victims, allegations spanning years, and the discovery that Hall had been warned about the potentially devastating consequences of his actions.

Just how many lives had he changed? How much did he know? And, most chillingly of all, why did he do it?

This is the shocking story of Adam Hall – and the investigation that exposed the truth.

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On Christmas Eve 1971, 17-year-old Juliane Koepcke boarded LANSA Flight 508 with her mother, bound for the Peruvian city of Pucallpa. She could never have imagined that within hours, she would be the sole survivor of one of the most extraordinary aviation disasters in history.

When the aircraft broke apart during a violent thunderstorm, Juliane fell thousands of feet into the Amazon rainforest — still strapped into her row of seats.

Somehow, she survived.

Injured, completely alone and surrounded by one of the most unforgiving environments on Earth, Juliane now faced an extraordinary fight to stay alive and find her way back to civilisation.

This week on Seeing Red, Bethan leads us through the devastating story of LANSA Flight 508 and the almost unbelievable survival of Juliane Koepcke — a story of tragedy, resilience and one young woman's determination to live.

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