Nat chats with mom of multiples Phoebe Kannisto, mom of 7, including twins, triplets, and two singletons. Phoebe shares her journey of conceiving, both spontaneously and through IVF, not finding out the sexes of her triplets, what kind of help she had with no family in the state, and teaching her kids to be independent at a young age.

This episode is sponsored by Dr. Brown's.

Phoebe Kannisto is a stay-at-home mom to seven children, including twins and triplets. She loves cooking, musicals, volunteering at her kids' schools, hiking, and anything outdoors.

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