Shit, my friend says!

If you’re also maintaining Snapchat streaks or “little fire” friendships on social media—collecting interaction points through daily chats—while secretly feeling a hint of emptiness during all those online interactions, then this episode is for you.

We invited Tim to talk with us about why it can sometimes feel like we’re talking every day, yet still not experiencing a real connection. After Linsey brought up the idea that modern humans may be having an unhealthy reaction to the social side of social media, Tim gently but firmly pointed out that it has always been difficult to find interactions online that truly touch the soul. Danni then raised another possibility: what if we are trying to adapt to a new environment using old rules? And if that’s the case, how should our understanding evolve in response to these new rules and this new environment?

At the same time, friends jokingly called out Linsey for stopping her English livestreams, which also made her realize how important a “space” or “environment” can be. But it also left her feeling grateful—because among all the people who come and go, real connections do exist after all.

And to all of you we met through the internet: we hope you’re doing well.

In this episode, we explore what it means to be a woman in today’s world — not through a single definition, but through many voices.

This is a special collaboration with my fellow podcaster Juju, together with a group of wonderful women we met online: Limehouse, Chill, 29, Eleven, Sherely, Sippy, and Winnie.

Through a series of questions and shared reflections, we talk about topics such as femininity and feminism, the myths around women and female friendships, the expectations placed on women as we grow up, and the challenges we continue to navigate.

Each of us comes from different backgrounds and life stages — single or married, younger or more experienced — yet there is something deeply connecting in the way we see, question, and experience the world.

This episode is not about defining feminism, but about holding space for different perspectives, different stories, and different ways of being.

I found this conversation deeply meaningful, and I hope it brings you both resonance and strength. Special thanks to my friend Juju — for this collaboration and for the amazing work she does. If you enjoy thoughtful, high-quality English podcast content, I highly recommend checking out her podcast Juju’s Corner. 

这一期，我们一起聊“女性”与“女性主义”。

不是从一个标准答案出发，而是通过多位女性的真实经验与思考，去展开这个话题。

这是一场和播客创作者 Linsey 的合作，我们也邀请了几位在线上认识的女性朋友参与接力分享：Limehouse、Chill、29、Eleven、Sherely、Sippy 和 Winnie。

我们围绕一些问题展开，比如：带有女性气质的打扮是否意味着不够女性主义？社会对女性以及女性友谊的刻板印象是什么？从小到大我们所接受的“女性教化”又如何影响我们？

参与的女性来自不同的人生阶段，有已婚的，也有未婚的，有年轻的，也有更成熟的视角。但在这些差异之中，也有一种很真实的连接。

这期节目不是为了给女性主义下定义，而是希望通过不同的声音，让我们更理解彼此，也更理解自己。

对我来说，这是一期很有意义、也很有力量的对话，也希望它能带给你一些共鸣和力量。

特别感谢我的朋友 Juju一起完成这期合作。如果你也喜欢有深度、有温度的英文播客，我真的很推荐你去听她的播客: Juju’s Corner

List of the myths and the girls’s names who answered those questions:

1.Limehouse: If I keep wearing makeup, keep dressing in really feminine clothes, and sometimes even put on heels…  

does that make me, like, the absolute worst feminist ever?

2.Linsey: In the workplace, after a woman gets what she wants, she calms an angry male colleague by saying,

“不要跟小女子一般见识，你格局大.”So my question is “Is it necessary to put women down in order to smooth things over with others?  Why should women have to diminish themselves to defuse a man’s anger?”

3. Chill: If you could permanently erase one myth about women from society, what would it be and why?

4. Twentynine: “In many East Asian cultures, people seem to spend their whole lives preparing for retirement and old age. Does the idea of aging — especially the uncertainty of it — ever scare you? Do you think we should start planning for that stage of life as early as our 20s?”

5. Eleven: As a women in society what do u think is the biggest issue that we face since we’re little and how has that issue been resolved through out generations of women around the world?

6. Sherely: Regarding motherhood, the current public opinion field seems to be divided into two factions: one side is the traditional group that flaunts happy family gatherings with children, and the other side is the clear-headed group that rejects coercion and refuses to have children.

As an ordinary person, how do you view motherhood? In your opinion, raising a human life—is it a gift or a punishment?

7. Sippy: ”Is money capable of solving all human problems, or are there aspects of life—such as love, meaning, and morality—that remain beyond its reach?"

8. WIni: What is most ridiculous myth you’ve ever heard about women’s body part? 

9. Juju: Why do people often label assertive girls as ‘bossy,’ while praising boys for leadership?

这一集毫不夸张的说，简直差一点就变成了Linsey的免费心理诊疗。Danni带我们认识什么是严厉的爱，严厉的爱并不是凶巴巴，并不是暴力，真正的严厉的爱，是出于爱，为对方考虑，给对方空间成长。虽然我们以家庭教育开头，但成年人何尝不需要严厉的爱呢。这中间甚至夹杂了Linsey认为的严厉的爱是什么样子，最后被证明那应该可以算是一次童年的创伤。在这个对话里，我们可以学到很多以往不会去思考的知识点，比如我们逗小孩的游戏，里面居然很奇怪的在帮助孩子认识这个世界！欢迎大家收听转发并点赞！

In this episode, it’s no exaggeration to say that it almost turned into Linsey’s free therapy session.

Danni takes us on a journey to understand what tough love truly means. Tough love isn’t about being harsh or aggressive — it comes from care, from the intention to give someone space to grow.

Although we started the conversation with parenting, adults also need tough love in their own ways. Along the way, Linsey shared what she thought “tough love” was, only to realize later that it might actually be linked to a childhood trauma.

In this dialogue, we uncover many fascinating insights that people don’t usually think about — like how the simple games we play with children can strangely help them make sense of the world!

Tune in, share, and give it a like! 

这期节目是一场小小的关于oversharing的辩论， Michael和Mark就这个话题进行了友好的辩论，中间试图让对方加入自己的立场的尝试让人忍俊不禁，Linsey和Danni更像是两颗墙头草，从双方观点中取其精华。Oversharing在现在的时代似乎不再是一个问题，无论是社交媒体还是真实的生活圈子，都有用Oversharing获取别人肯定和关注的时刻，隐私在当代似乎是一件可有可无的事情，但是如果深入探讨，你会发现所谓“做真实的自己”的愿望，都有会无数种前提。我应该分享多少？到底多少是多？多少是少？在Michael和Mark的辩论中，或许你能找到你的答案。

另外，这一期节目算是我们播客的特别篇，我们做播客满一周年啦！感谢所有听众的支持和喜爱，也感谢所有嘉宾们的倾力支持！希望来年我们做的更好！

This episode is a lighthearted debate about oversharing. Michael and Mark engaged in a friendly discussion, each trying—sometimes hilariously—to persuade the other to join their side. Linsey and Danni, on the other hand, acted like charming fence-sitters, picking out the best points from both perspectives.

In today’s world, oversharing no longer seems to be much of a problem. Whether on social media or in real life, we often share a little too much in hopes of gaining recognition and attention. Privacy feels almost optional nowadays. But if you take a closer look, you’ll realize that the idea of “being authentic” always comes with hidden conditions.

How much should we share? What’s considered too much—or too little?

Perhaps you’ll find your own answer somewhere in Michael and Mark’s debate.

By the way, this episode is also a special one—it marks our first anniversary!

We’re deeply grateful to all our listeners for the love and support, and to all the amazing guests who’ve joined us along the way. Here’s to another year of growth and great conversations! 

这一集我们邀请了金属歌手Kris聊了一下愤怒管理。在社交媒体和社会意识的快速发展之下，现在的人类对于愤怒也有着不一样的管理方式。就如Danni所说，活在当下，就有如七个人把你往七个不同的方向拉扯，同时又想把你局限于一个小小盒子，有时候这真的很难让人喘息。Kris在进行金属乐队的经营和创作之前，就已经用比较有创意的方式去进行愤怒管理，这个愤怒要不要发出来，要不要憋回去，全靠自己自洽，片尾由Kris的乐队Jahil制作的歌曲“Let it rip“或许能帮助一些愤怒而无法言说的人类找到答案。

In this episode, we invited metal singer Kris to talk about anger management. With the rapid growth of social media and social awareness, people today handle anger in very different ways. As Danni said, living in the present often feels like being pulled in seven different directions at once, while still being confined to a tiny box—it can be suffocating at times. Before running and creating for his metal band, Kris had already been exploring creative ways of managing anger. Whether to let the anger out or bottle it up depends entirely on one’s own sense of balance. At the end of the episode, we share a song by Kris’s band, Jahil, titled “Let It Rip.” It might help those who struggle with unspoken anger find some answers.

Kris 的抖音ID：33475439182

这一期的话题和我们之前的一期节目“Life of death, death of life”相呼应，这一次我们讲了“生”。就在上一集节目发出后第二天，Jojo 和 Mark一夜之间就真的成了父母。无论是他们夫妇本人，或者是观众，在收听下半集节目的时候，或许就有了一个不太一样的心态。在这一集里，我们聊了自己的叛逆，因此我们是不是可以对孩子的“叛逆”有更多的容忍。至于说要成为什么样的父母？是不是有一个范本？或者新一代的父母是不是一定就比上一代更好？对着这个事情，Jojo和Mark其实给出了意料之外的答案。那么这对模范夫妇是百分之百准备好了么？其实也没有，有句古话这么说：兵来将挡，水来土堰。这对夫妇互相协作，一起解决生活中的各种问题，何尝不是人生中最有意思的事情呢？

This episode’s topic echoes one of our previous shows, “Life of Death, Death of Life” — but this time, we’re talking about “life.” Just a day after our last episode was released, Jojo and Mark literally became parents overnight. Whether it’s for them as a couple, or for the audience, listening to the second half of this two-part program might feel a little different now.

In this episode, we talked about our own rebellious years, and wondered if that might make us more tolerant of “rebellion” in our children. As for what kind of parents one should be — is there a perfect model? Does being part of a new generation automatically make someone a better parent than the last? On this, Jojo and Mark gave some unexpected answers.

And are this “model couple” one hundred percent ready? Not exactly. There’s an old saying: When the soldiers come, use generals to block them; when the flood comes, use earth to stop it. For Jojo and Mark, working together to tackle all kinds of challenges in life might just be one of the most interesting parts of the journey.

JOJO’s Douyin ID: JoJo_something

Mark’s Douyin ID: 66448307009

这一期的话题和我们之前的一期节目“Life of death, death of life”相呼应，这一次我们讲了“生”。我们邀请了即将在八月迎来新家庭成员的一对夫妇，JOJO以及Mark, 请他们给大家讲述了他们准备迎接家庭新成员的一切心路历程。在采访和录制的过程里，Linsey惊叹原来真的有“一切准备就绪”的父母，带着忐忑的心情，等待并同时也准备着孩子的到来。我们聊了这对甜蜜夫妻在发现怀孕后跌宕起伏的心情，他们的忧虑，以及他们对为人父母这件事情的理解和反思。从这个轻松的对谈中我们或许能够感受到，我们对于“生”的概念，是更加乐观和积极的，是充满了愿望的，是乐观的。

This episode echoes a previous one titled “Life of Death, Death of Life”—but this time, we talk about birth.

We invited a couple, Jojo and Mark, who are expecting a new family member this August. They shared with us their emotional journey as they prepare to welcome their child.

During the interview and recording, Linsey was amazed to discover that there truly are parents who seem “fully prepared”—waiting with both anticipation and uncertainty, while getting everything ready for the baby’s arrival.

We talked about the emotional ups and downs Jojo and Mark experienced after finding out they were pregnant—their worries, their hopes, and their reflections on what it means to become parents.

Through this lighthearted yet heartfelt conversation, we may begin to sense that our understanding of “life” is filled with hope, dreams, and a quiet kind of optimism.

JOJO’s Douyin ID: JoJo_something

Mark’s Douyin ID: 66448307009

这是关于美国高中生活的下半集，这一集我们聊了校园安全问题，Wini面临的其实挺可怕，是有可能发生的枪击事件，而在国内的我们面临的是不一样的挑战，比如突如其来的变故和责任。除此之外我们还聊了聊选择教师这个职业的困惑以及阶段性的心得，我们的理解真的非常不一样。

This is the second part of our conversation about American high school life. In this episode, we talked about campus safety. What Wini has faced is actually quite frightening — the very real possibility of a school shooting. Meanwhile, here in China, we face different challenges, such as sudden life changes and heavy responsibilities. We also discussed the confusion and reflections we’ve had about choosing teaching as a profession. Our understandings of it turned out to be very different.

Wini’’s Douyin ID: WinifredYu

这一期是三个老师的聚会，Linsey是在中国教英文的中国籍老师，Danni是在中国教英文的美国籍老师，Wini是在美国教英文的美籍华人老师，我们一起谈论了美国高中的生态是否真如影视剧一样充满了故事，mean girl 是不是真的那么mean？美高的食物链怎么排序？美高作息时间是否真如我们看到的一样轻松？美高获得学业成就需不需要那么卷？这一话题分成两个部分，以便带大家在wini老师的介绍下对美高生活有一个不一样的理解。

This episode is a gathering of three teachers: Linsey, a Chinese national teaching English in China; Danni, an American teaching English in China; and Wini, a Chinese-American teaching English in the U.S. Together, we discussed whether American high schools are really as full of drama as portrayed in movies and TV shows. Are “mean girls” truly that mean? How does the social hierarchy work in American high schools? Is their daily schedule really as relaxed as it seems? And how intense is the academic competition? This topic is divided into two parts to give listeners a different perspective on American high school life, guided by teacher Wini’s insights.

Wini’’s Douyin ID: WinifredYu

这一期是三个老师的聚会，Linsey是在中国教英文的中国籍老师，Danni是在中国教英文的美国籍老师，Wini是在美国教英文的美籍华人老师，我们一起谈论了美国高中的生态是否真如影视剧一样充满了故事，mean girl 是不是真的那么mean？美高的食物链怎么排序？美高作息时间是否真如我们看到的一样轻松？美高获得学业成就需不需要那么卷？这一话题分成两个部分，以便带大家在wini老师的介绍下对美高生活有一个不一样的理解。

This episode is a gathering of three teachers: Linsey, a Chinese national teaching English in China; Danni, an American teaching English in China; and Wini, a Chinese-American teaching English in the U.S. Together, we discussed whether American high schools are really as full of drama as portrayed in movies and TV shows. Are “mean girls” truly that mean? How does the social hierarchy work in American high schools? Is their daily schedule really as relaxed as it seems? And how intense is the academic competition? This topic is divided into two parts to give listeners a different perspective on American high school life, guided by teacher Wini’s insights.

Wini’’s Douyin ID: WinifredYu