What could it look like to build an egalitarian culture in our churches and organizations? In this episode, Rev. Lisa Johnson, executive director of leadership formation for the ECO denomination, joins Layla and Rob to discuss culture change through proactively inviting women into leadership, doggedly pursuing the 30 percent rule, and being intentional about representation. Beyond her many practical exhortations, listeners will be compelled by Lisa’s description of a culture marked by God’s “irresistible vision” for women and men partnering together in ministry.  

Guest Bio 

“Rev. Lisa Johnson grew up in Orange County, CA and received her BA in Communication Studies at Westmont College. She received her MDiv at Princeton Seminary and was ordained in 1999. She has ministered at five different churches in New Jersey, Santa Barbara, Orange County, and San Diego as an associate pastor. She now serves as the Executive Director of Leadership Formation for ECO and the Director of Mentored Ministry for FIT. Lisa has a passion for teaching, discipleship, leadership development, and spiritual formation, and loves serving ECO churches in this capacity. She lives in San Diego (Coronado), CA with her husband and has two young adult children, Ellie and Luke.” See more at https://eco-pres.org/staff.  

Mentioned in this episode: Better Together: How Women and Men Can Heal the Divide and Work Together to Transform the Future 

Related Resources 

Video: Creating Cultures of Belonging: Cultivating Organizations Where Women and Men Thrive 

Complementarianism Exists in Egalitarian Organizations and Churches Because of Patriarchy 

Retreating from Retreats: An Egalitarian Vision for Church Conferences 

Seven Egalitarian Leaders Reflect on the Movement’s Past, Present, and Future 

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