On today’s mellow episode, Marco and Amanda are both feeling a little under the weather—but that doesn’t stop them from bringing you a gentle, meandering conversation perfect for winding down.

Amanda shares the story behind their sniffles and reminisces about her days in university. Meanwhile, Marco offers up a few handy hot tips, and reveals some of his most memorable (and mischievous) gift-giving pranks for friends and family.

All this and more on The Insomnia Project—the podcast that’s designed to be calm, quiet, and hopefully a little boring.

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