This week on Cultivating Place, guest host Ben Futa of Botany in South Bend, Indiana, is back, this time in conversation with John Kish in the desert town of Bend, Oregon.

John is the founder and owner of Somewhere That’s Green, an indoor plant shop and home of the Greenhouse Cabaret Theatre. Per John’s vision, his work and life are a combination plant shop, performance venue, and community center. As part of the Cabaret, John is also the resident Drag Queen, also known as "Fertile Liza."

In their conversation, Ben and John explore John’s lifelong love for plants, art, and expression and how these have combined over time to create a place like no other. John is a dynamic and compassionate community leader and business owner who is actively working to cultivate a community he is proud to live in while also creating opportunities for others to thrive - embodying a new business mindset that perhaps has more in common with ecology than capitalism. Enjoy!

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