Why are brands still hesitant to embrace AI in creative work—even when it delivers faster, cheaper, and often better results?

In this episode, Superside co-founder & CEO Fredrik Thomassen joins Jason Harris to explore the Soul & Science of AI-powered creativity—and why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn’t the technology, but human resistance to change.

Fredrik shares how Superside is reshaping the creative industry, using AI to optimize workflows, scale production, and help brands break through the noise. He reveals the surprising ways AI outperforms human-generated creative, why the briefing process is the real bottleneck in marketing, and how companies can rethink their approach to creative strategy before they fall behind.

What’s Inside:

✅ The biggest misconception about AI-generated creative—and why brands still resist it.
✅ How AI-powered briefing tools are solving the #1 bottleneck in creative work.
✅ The Soul & Science of AI—why the real challenge isn’t tech, but trust.
✅ Why brands that fail to integrate AI into their workflow will struggle to compete.

Memorable Moments:

💡 "People say AI can’t do strategy or taste—but the data tells a different story."
💡 "If you don’t get your clients to embrace AI, you’ll be left behind."
💡 "AI isn’t replacing creatives—it’s freeing them up to make better work."

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CMOs have the shortest lifespan of any C-suite executive. Why?

In this Soul & Science mini-episode, Jason breaks down insights from a recent Adweek article, exploring the top reasons CMOs get fired—and how they can avoid the same fate.

Key Takeaways:
✅ Overpromising results is the #1 reason CMOs lose their jobs.
✅ Many fail to earn trust from CEOs, CFOs, and the leadership team.
✅ Only 1 in 3 CEOs & CFOs feel aligned with their CMO.
✅ CMOs need to “market the marketing”—internally proving their value.

With CMO tenure averaging just 40 months, Jason will be focusing on learning how top CMOs gain buy-in, build trust, and prove their impact in upcoming episodes.

How do you go from leading an agency to coaching the next generation of leaders?

In Part 2 of our conversation, Rob Schwartz—former CEO of TBWA\Chiat\Day and now an Executive Coach—talks with Jason about the Soul & Science of Coaching. He shares his philosophy on guiding teams, unlocking creative potential, and moving businesses from transactional back to transformational.

Rob breaks down where and how his GROW coaching framework works best, why deep listening is a leadership superpower, and how simply showing up—whether for a client, a team, or yourself—can make all the difference.

What’s Inside:

✅ How Rob’s GROW framework helps leaders set goals, align teams, and drive change.
✅ The Soul & Science of Coaching—balancing instinct, psychology, and structure.
✅ Why creative leaders need to understand business fundamentals, including finance.
✅ How agencies and brands can move from taking orders to shaping bold ideas again.

Memorable Moments:

💡 "We’ve gone from transformational to transactional. Show up. Listen. Get to the real goal."
💡 "Great coaching isn’t about telling people what to do—it’s about helping them realize what’s already inside them."
💡 "Want to unlock creative potential? Start with values that actually mean something."

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How do you turn creative vision into leadership success—and inspire a team to grow through disruption?

This week, Jason dives into the Soul & Science of Creative Leadership with Rob Schwartz, Executive Coach and former CEO of TBWA\Chiat\Day. Rob’s journey from copywriter to CEO is a masterclass in creative transformation. Using his philosophy of “Clarify, Simplify, Unify, Amplify,” Rob revitalized TBWA\Chiat\Day New York and led iconic brands like Nissan, Visa, and McDonald's to global success.

Rob shares how his bias towards action and deep listening skills shaped his leadership style, allowing him to innovate in times of disruption and inspire teams to reach their full potential. He also opens up about his transition from CEO to Executive Coach, offering powerful insights on nurturing human potential and coaching the next generation of creative leaders.

What’s Inside:

• How Rob’s philosophy of “Clarify, Simplify, Unify, Amplify” reshaped TBWA\Chiat\Day New York.
• The importance of listening and having a bias toward action in creative leadership.
• Why understanding the economics of an agency is crucial for moving from CCO to CEO.
• The lessons he learned guiding teams through industry disruptions and global crises.

Memorable Moments:

• "Business is a creative act. Being CEO was the most creative thing I ever did."
• "Listening isn’t just about hearing words—it’s about understanding culture, trends, and human needs."
• "Great leaders adapt and grow with the times, just like great brands."

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What if the secret to creating ads that truly connect isn’t in what people say, but in what their brains reveal?

Pranav Yadav, founder and global CEO of Neuro-Insight, leverages neuromarketing—technology that measures neural signals to track emotional responses—to uncover deeper truths that help brands like TJ Maxx and Anheuser Busch craft ads that stir emotions and hit the perfect pitch.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• What neuromarketing is and how it’s revolutionizing the way brands are built.
• Why the first hour of a focus group doesn’t always predict real-world purchasing behavior.
• How an ad’s success hinges on associating the brand with peak emotional moments.
• Why being open to learning is the ultimate key to growth.

Tune in to discover how Yadav blends science and creativity to transform advertising strategies.

*This episode originally aired in January 2023

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This week, Jason explores The Soul & Science of Entrepreneur Partnerships with Dustin Baker and Maya French, co-founders of HappyPop. As the driving forces behind Koia and now HappyPop, Dustin and Maya have redefined what it means to create purposeful products in the competitive beverage industry.Discover how their unique partnership has evolved over a decade, how they turned personal challenges into groundbreaking products, and why community is at the heart of their mission to deliver happiness and wellness to all.What’s Inside:

• How Dustin and Maya’s entrepreneurial chemistry fuels their success.
• Lessons from launching Koia, a plant-based protein drink, and HappyPop, a mood-boosting energy beverage.
• Strategies for building community and creating culturally relevant brands.
• Insights into navigating the ever-changing CPG landscape.

Memorable Moments:

• "Great partnerships are built on trust, adaptability, and a shared mission."
• "Happiness isn’t just a product—it’s a commitment to making lives better."
• "Community is earned, not demanded, and it’s essential for brand success."

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What’s the secret to building lasting and successful partnerships? This week, we dive into the Soul & Science of agency-client relationships with Stephen Boehler, founder of Mercer Island Group and former Procter & Gamble brand manager. Stephen shares his journey from growing up in a family business to leading one of the most respected agency search consultancies. Learn how a serendipitous flight led to the creation of Mercer Island Group, his lessons from turning around the Pringles brand, and why fostering chemistry between teams is vital for innovation and growth.

What’s in this episode?

• Why short-termism is a growing challenge—and how to refocus on long-term brand building.
• Tips for creating meaningful client-agency relationships that stand the test of time.
• How training gaps are impacting the marketing industry—and what we can do about it.

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Let's talk about the Soul & Science of disrupting an industry and scaling a business. This week, Jason sits down with Erika Badan, CEO of Food52, to discuss her journey from early career uncertainty to becoming a leader in the home goods and lifestyle industry.

Erika shares how her time at Barstool Sports taught her to embrace risk, her vision for reimagining Food52’s role in the market, and the importance of building brands that connect authentically with their communities. From navigating investor relationships to cultivating a team capable of disruption, Erika’s insights offer a fresh perspective on leadership in today’s dynamic business environment.What’s in this episode?

• Lessons on scaling businesses while staying true to your brand’s essence.
• The role of adaptability and intuition in managing teams and growth.
• Why community and fearless experimentation are central to long-term success.

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This week, we’re throwing it back to a classic episode that won us not one, but two Signal Awards.  

Douglas Martin, Chief Brand and Disruptive Growth Officer at General Mills, is a brand growth champion with over 22 years of experience.

In his role at General Mills, Doug has worked on marketing initiatives for Cheerios and Yoplait, and his experience spans across household names in addition to General Mills, with roles at Gap and Walt Disney Studios.

On today’s episode you’ll learn: 

• How a company that’s not only a household name, but 167 years old – can still disrupt their categories.
• What makes an idea not only great, but a scalable $50 million business idea.
• The value of good old fashioned pen and paper when framing and solving big picture problems. 
• There’s no company so big that it shouldn’t keep finding new opportunities for growth.

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*This episode originally aired in October 2023

There’s just one day left before the election, and Kamala Harris has recently intensified her critique of Donald Trump, calling out his "unstable" and "fascist" tendencies. In this mini episode, Jason talks about why, as a Harris voter, her campaign’s strategic pivot to a tougher tone aimed at swaying independents and energizing her base might not have been the best move. 

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