Startup Dad

Carlo Navarro is a former marketing leader turned fractional executive and the owner of the @StartupDad instagram handle (I’m jealous!). He’s been a mentor in the Chicago startup scene via 1871 and a marketing director and sales leader at companies like Blueleaf, Carrum Health, Pandora and more. He’s also a husband and the father of five (!) kids. In our conversation today we discussed:

* Helping your kids discover their passions and dreams

* Avoiding the temptation to push your kids to live your idealized version of life

* Navigating complex health issues in a large family and managing through them

* The role of social media and technology for your kids

* A framework on following through with consequences for your kids

* How to capture the idea Christmas card photo with a family of 7

* The family adjustment when his wife went back to work

* How he identifies and catches himself when he’s about to lose his patience

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Where to find Carlo Navarro

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlonavarro/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdad/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:28] Welcome

[2:37] Professional background

[3:46] Childhood

[5:58] Were there other Filipino kids in your school?

[7:29] How did you meet your wife?

[8:12] What does your wife do for work?

[9:15] Adjustment of wife going back to work

[10:29] Their decision to start a family

[12:27] Household dynamic of kids

[15:13] Helping kids navigate their dreams

[17:54] Not living vicariously through kids

[20:49] How to pull off the perfect family Christmas card

[23:56] What has changed emotionally after multiple kids

[25:33] Balancing health issues in a large family

[33:30] Advice to younger Carlo

[35:28] Favorite book to read to your kids?

[37:10] An area you and partner don’t align?

[40:24] Kid’s relationship with technology

[43:53] Mistake you made as a dad?

[44:48] Ways to identify when losing patience?

[47:02] Follow along

[48:03] Lightning round

[57:00] Thank you

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Show references:

1871: https://1871.com/

Blue Leaf: https://www.blueleaf.com/

Karim Health: http://karimhealthcare.com/

Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/

Detroit Lions: https://www.detroitlions.com/

Swisher Home Improvement SHI: https://swisherhomeimprovement.com/

HHT: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/hereditary-hemorrhagic-telangiectasia

Rosie Revere Engineer & Series by Andrea Beaty: http://www.andreabeaty.com/

Troomi: https://troomi.com/

Connected Families: https://connectedfamilies.org/

Bottle Warmer: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-Temperature-Control-Automatic-Shut-Off/dp/B0876T9DQZ/

Messi: https://www.intermiamicf.com/players/lionel-messi/

Michael Jordan: https://www.hoophall.com/hall-of-famers/michael-jordan/

Caillou: https://en.caillou.com/

Blippi: https://blippi.com/

Atlas 7 Passenger: https://www.vw.com/en/models/atlas.html

Pee Wee Herman: https://peewee.com/

Lion King: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110357/

Lion Guard: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3793630/

Sandlot: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108037/

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Nathan Jefferson is an entrepreneur, turned tech recruiter, turned entrepreneur (again). His latest company, Dadversity, is focused on helping Dads improve their personal, professional and parenting skills. It’s rooted in his own lived experience with two abusive stepfathers and a biological father who left him at a young age. He’s on a mission to help Dads be better so they don’t repeat the mistakes he experienced in his childhood. Nathan is also a husband and the father of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed:

* The origin story of Dadversity

* What it’s like being the product of a broken home

* How to balance (or not) building a business with Dad life

* How to maintain strong relationships at home when your mind is elsewhere

* He he has learned to be a better Dad despite having poor role models

* The most impactful conversations he’s had with Dadversity guests

* The emotional toll that building a community can have on you

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Where to find Nathan Jefferson

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanjefferson/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dadversitynathan/

* Dadversity: https://dadversity.co.uk/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:45] Welcome

[1:59] His background as a recruiter

[4:46] Origin of Dadversity

[12:22] Example of a Dadversity workshop

[14:52] How Nathan met his wife; all about his kids

[17:28] His wife as the family anchor

[18:55] Earliest memory of becoming a Dad

[20:34] Balancing Dadversity and fatherhood

[23:03] A good piece of advice

[25:39] How did you learn to be a dad withou role models?

[28:37] Dadversity conversation that has stuck with Nathan the most

[31:39] Most surprising thing about becoming a Dad

[34:31] Advice to ignore

[36:41] Writing a book/favorite book to read?

[37:51] Frameworks

[41:39] Where do you and your partner not align?

[43:20] Something you gave up to be a Dad?

[46:16] Mistake as a Dad?

[47:48] Where to follow along

[49:19] Lightning round

[56:31] Thank you

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Show references:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dadversitynathan/

Dadversity: https://dadversity.co.uk/

University of Oxford: https://www.ox.ac.uk/

 CocoMelon: https://cocomelon.com/

Two For Joy - The true story of one family's journey to happiness with severely disabled twins by James Melville-Ross: https://www.amazon.com/Two-Joy-happiness-severely-disabled-ebook/dp/B0DHYQ77BP/

Sing 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6467266/

Home Alone:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/

Green Mile:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120689/

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Phil Carter is a consumer subscription growth expert and advisor. He has built a popular Reforge course on consumer subscriptions and advises companies on their growth strategy. Prior to that he led growth and product functions at Faire, Quizlet and Ibotta. Phil is also a husband and the father of two kids.

Phil’s wife, Ashley, founded a non-profit called Daring Girls that comes up in today’s episode and has helped over 20,000 Tanzanian women further their education. Donate today!

In our conversation today we discussed:

* Raising kids during the pandemic

* Traveling internationally with young children

* How to teach kids cultural empathy and understanding

* Protecting coveted time with your spouse

* Avoiding everything becoming a household logistics conversation

* The weekly family meeting and how that works for Phil and his family

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Where to find Phil Carter

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philgcarter/

X: https://x.com/philgcarter

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:29] Welcome

[2:03] Professional background

[4:14] Childhood

[5:32] What family are you close to now?

[7:27] How you met your wife

[8:39] Daring Girls and his wife’s work

[11:28] Decision to start a family

[13:27] Earliest memory of becoming a dad?

[16:36] Raising kids during the pandemic

[20:21] Taking kids to Tanzania

[25:42] Talking to kids about diversity

[29:02] Family meeting

[32:37] Advice for younger Phil

[35:56] Advice to ignore

[37:43] Protecting time w/ spouse

[40:59] Standing date-night time/sitter

[42:03] Keeping date-nights from becoming logistical discussions

[44:09] Where do you and partner not align?

[47:16] Mistake you made as a dad?

[49:05] Halloween

[51:11] #1 book recommendation 

[52:29] Fav holiday recipes or traditions?

[54:10] Follow along

[54:49] Lightning round

[1:03:56] Thank you

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Show references:

Daring Girls: https://daringgirls.org/

Donate to Daring Girls: https://daringgirls.org/donate/

Quizlet: https://quizlet.com/

Ibotta: https://home.ibotta.com/

Bain: https://www.bain.com/

Stanford: https://www.stanford.edu/

Turo: https://turo.com/

Faire: https://www.faire.com/

Reforge: https://www.reforge.com/

Harry Potter: https://www.harrypotter.com/

Tanzania: https://www.britannica.com/place/Tanzania

Pokemon: Detective Pikachu: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5884052/

DinoLingo: https://www.dinolingo.com/

Duolingo: https://www.duolingo.com/

The Kite Runner by Khaled Hosseini: https://www.amazon.com/Kite-Runner-Khaled-Hosseini/dp/159463193X

Children Of The Corn: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087050/

Lion King Soundtrack: open.spotify.com/album/7e8y48Z2fkJNGBOKSECCeS

The Five Love Languages: https://5lovelanguages.com/

Osprey backpacks: https://www.osprey.com/

How to Train Your Dragon: https://www.dreamworks.com/how-to-train-your-dragon

Bluey: https://www.bluey.tv/

The Wild Robot: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29623480/

Mighty Ducks: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104868

The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt:https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/0593655036

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Rob Taylor is a growth and sales advisor and the founder of the Dads in Business community. Dads in Business is a supportive network of content, resources and community to help busy dads better manage themselves, their family and their business. Rob is also a husband and the father of four children. In our conversation today we discussed:

* What to do when they don’t teach Dad in school

* Robs journey to create Dads in Business

* The feeling of loneliness that Rob experienced after becoming a Dad for the first time

* How to fight off the “Should Gremlins”

* Where Dads can learn about fatherhood with such limited resources

* Some of the most impactful conversations he’s had on Dads in Business

* Balance and boundaries

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Where to find Rob Taylor

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robtaylorofficial/

* YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dadsinbusiness

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:46] Welcome

[2:16] Dads In Business

[13:07] Example of oldest son’s questions

[14:03] Rob’s wife & four kids

[17:50] Decision to start a family

[19:48] “Should” gremlins

[22:48] Combatting “should” gremlins

[25:45] Earliest memory of becoming a dad

[27:04] What does “teaching dad” mean to you?

[33:39] Most surprising thing about becoming a dad?

[35:54] Dads in Business most impactful moments

[39:57] Memorable story of DIB impact

[42:45] How has Rob’s parenting style evolved

[45:54] Mistake as a dad?

[46:57] What’s next?

[49:05] Follow along

[50:11] Lightning round

[56:36] Thank you

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Show references:

Dads In Business LI: https://www.linkedin.com/company/dads-in-business/

Dads In Business Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3NsyHEWffBfu5gNpU2x-Ow

Dads In Business TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dadsinbusiness

Dads In Business Website: dadsinbusiness.co.uk

Book Of Dad: https://dadsinbusiness.co.uk/the-book-of-dad/

Deck Of Dad: https://dadsinbusiness.co.uk/dad-deck/

WWE: https://www.wwe.com/

Undercover Billionaire: https://www.discovery.com/shows/undercover-billionaire

Cereal Dad Preneur: Put Your Family First While You Build An Empire And Create Wealth by Matt Smith: https://www.amazon.com/Cereal-Dad-Preneur-Family-Empire-ebook/dp/B08GRXW2QB

Grant Cardone: https://grantcardone.com/

Mike Michalowicz Profit First: https://mikemichalowicz.com/profit-first/

Dads in Business Podcast - Sleep Fitness: Transforming Men's Health Performance: youtube.com/watch?v=nRDh4Nn3pw4

Inside Out: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2096673/

Die Hard: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095016/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Michael Perry is a serial founder and entrepreneur. He is currently the founder and CEO of Maple, an all-in-one app that helps parents get and stay organized. Prior to Maple he founded Live For Fame, Giving and Kit which he led for 6 years before selling to Shopify and then continuing with them for another four years. He was early in the leveraging AI to transform marketing for small businesses. Michael is also a husband and the father of two children. In our conversation today we discussed:

* Remote work as a founder and parent

* His thoughts on Amazon’s return-to-work policies

* The feelings that arose for him when becoming a father

* Advice he’d give his younger self

* Decision-making frameworks to make the best use of his time

* What it means to leverage FOMO to be present and purposeful

* How having kids changed him as a founder and a manager

* The relationship he wants his kids to have with technology

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Where to find Michael Perry

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mlperry/

* X: https://twitter.com/michaelperry

* Maple: https://growmaple.com/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:43] Welcome Michael

[2:33] Professional background

[13:51] Maple

[23:01] How he met partner and their decision to have kids

[28:29] IVF journey

[32:57] Earliest memory of becoming a dad

[36:53] FOMO

[40:37] Amazon’s return to office policy

[46:51] Frameworks

[51:17] Area where you and partner don’t align?

[55:07] Kids' relationship to technology?

[1:02:06] Where to follow along with Michael’s journey

[1:03:18] Lightning round

[1:08:32] Thank you

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Show references:

Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/

Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/

Kickstarter: https://www.kickstarter.com/

Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/

Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/?ref=lgo

BigCommerce: https://www.bigcommerce.com/

Madison, Maine: https://www.madisonmaine.com/

Santa Barbara, CA: https://santabarbaraca.com/

IVF: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/in-vitro-fertilization/about/pac-20384716

Snoo: https://www.amazon.com/SNOO-Smart-Sleeper-Happiest-Baby/dp/B0716KN18Z

Frozen: https://frozen.disney.com/

Spiderman and his Amazing Friends: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083481/

Star Wars: https://www.starwars.com/

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Sean Ellis is a growth legend and the creator of the term “growth hacker.” He has built a legendary framework (the “Sean Ellis test”) for determining product/market fit, wrote the original book on Growth (“Hacking Growth), and has founded several companies along with working at or advising companies like LogMeIn, Dropbox, Eventbrite, Bounce and more. In addition to his role as the Godfather of Growth he’s also a husband and the father of two adult children.

* Maintaining strong relationships with your daughters during the tumultuous teenage years and into their 20’s

* Sean’s philosophy on not waiting until it’s convenient

* Navigating big challenges with kids—from autoimmune disorders to depression

* Balancing the approach between letting kids figure stuff out on their own vs. jumping in to help them

* When to push and when to back off

* Sean’s meteoric rise as a CEO and head coach of a youth soccer team

* Some controversial approaches that worked for his family

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Where to find Sean Ellis

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanellis/

* X: https://twitter.com/SeanEllis

* Sean’s Newsletter: https://substack.com/@seanellis

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[2:05] Welcome

[2:42] Sean’s professional background

[7:49] Childhood

[9:13] How Sean met his wife; all about their kids?

[11:18] Are 20 year olds “kids”?

[12:00] Decision to start a family

[13:01] Earliest memory of becoming a Dad

[15:31] Maintaining relationship w/daughters into adulthood

[20:55] Surprising thing you learned as a Dad?

[22:28] Advice for younger Sean

[23:41] Shared advice to friends

[25:31] Balancing parenting techniques 

[30:20] Did the kids come back home while working?

[31:54] Sean the soccer coach

[37:05] Parenting style evolution

[41:41] Where Sean and his wife don’t align on parenting

[43:36] Kid’s relationship with technology

[45:36] What he gave up to become a dad?

[47:24] Mistakes he made as a dad?

[49:10] Where to follow along

[49:55] What inspired you to write again?

[52:00] Lightning Round

[55:38] Thank you

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Show references:

LogMeIn: https://www.logmein.com/

Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/

Eventbrite: https://www.eventbrite.com/

Bounce: https://usebounce.com/

UC Berkeley: https://www.berkeley.edu/

UCLA: https://www.ucla.edu/

Breathalyzer: https://www.amazon.com/BACtrack-Breathalyzer-Professional-Grade-Smartphone-Connectivity/dp/B079XXNBF3/ref=zg_bs_g_15992781_d_sccl_1/143-4646178-9363038?psc=1

Vuori: https://vuoriclothing.com/

Anastasia: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118617/

National Lampoon’s European Vacation :https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089670/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Dan Doty is the founder of Fatherhood Unlocked – a company that is helping Dads win at work, build deeper family connections and thrive in relationships. He’s also a writer, wilderness guide and has been an inner city high school teacher. Through his work Dan is at the forefront of the global men’s movement to help Dads be better at all aspects of life. His most recent project, Fatherhood Ready, is a course and community that helps prepare men for fatherhood. He’s also a husband and the father of three kids! In our conversation today we discussed:

* The exciting and historical changes in the role of fatherhood

* Why the role of fatherhood is changing

* The differences between how we were raised by our fathers and how they were raised by theirs

* The transition into fatherhood as a rite of passage

* Parenting in the time of great technical and societal change

* All about Fatherhood Ready and what it means to prepare for fatherhood

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Where to find Dan Doty

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-doty-18a50719/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatherhoodunlocked/

* Fatherhood Unlocked: https://www.fatherhoodunlocked.com/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:48] Welcome

[2:10] Dan’s Professional background

[4:24] Most surprising aspect of your work?

[6;38] Childhood and destiny

[9:58] Balancing of bonding & wilderness

[12:03] Dan’s life now

[14:20] Their decision to start a family

[20:24] What is driving this historical change?

[23:08] Dan’s wife as a spiritual guide and intuitive

[25:14] Sense of “fit”

[26:52] Earliest memory of becoming a dad

[29:09] Differences in emotion from kid to kid

[30:29] Rite of passage into fatherhood

[35:37] Advice  to younger Dan

[37:48] Advice to ignore?

[38:37] Fav book to read to kids?

[40:34] Frameworks

[43:46] Area where you and partner don’t align?

[44:26] Role of fatherhood in this time?

[48:16] What’d he give up to be a father?

[50:25] How does he recharge his batteries?

[52:00] Mistake as a father?

[54:04] How does he recover when losing his temper?

[57:07] Where to find Dan

[58:53] Lightning round

[1:01:11] Thank you

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Show references:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fatherhoodunlocked/

Fatherhood Unlocked: https://www.fatherhoodunlocked.com/

Fatherhood Ready: https://www.fatherhoodready.com/

Meat Eater: https://www.netflix.com/title/80126646

Evryman: https://evryman.com/

RIchard Reeves: https://richardvreeves.com/

REI: https://www.rei.com/

Match.com: match.com

Anthony Bourdain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bourdain

0.0 Productions: https://zeropointzero.com/

Will To Change by Bell Hooks: https://bellhooksbooks.com/product/the-will-to-change/

Jason Mraz: https://jasonmraz.com/

Martha’s Vineyard: https://www.mvy.com/

Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs: https://www.simplypsychology.org/maslow.html

Moana: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3521164/

Princess Bride: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520princess%2520bride

Maine: https://www.maine.gov/portal/index.html

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Carla Naumburg, PhD is a clinical social worker and the best-selling author of five parenting books. These include her international bestseller, How to Stop Losing Your Sh*t With Your Kids (Workman, 2019), as well as You Are Not a Sh*tty Parent; Ready, Set, Breath and Parenting in the Present Moment.. Her latest, which is recently published and the topic of this podcast is How to Stop Freaking Out, the (completely swear-free) middle-grade adaptation of How to Stop Losing Your Sh*t With Your Kids. She’s also a wife (making her second appearance on the pod) and the mother of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed:

* Everything about her newest book and the philosophy behind it

* How she first got into writing

* What it takes to research and write a book

* The inspiration behind How to Stop Freaking Out

* The five different types of freakouts

* Why kids freak out

* How to model and teach emotional regulation in our kids

* An extensive discussion on kids, smart phones and social media

Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Overcast and YouTube.

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Where to find Carla Naumburg

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlanaumburg/

* Carla's Website: https://www.carlanaumburg.com/

* Carla's Books: https://www.carlanaumburg.com/books/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:43] Welcome

[2:54] How did she start writing?

[5:15] Carla’s Childhood

[6:43] Her newest book

[8:13] Inspiration for How To Stop Freaking Out

[10:26] The Process for writing a book

[12:42] How a metaphor from her last book didn’t translate to this one

[14:58] Teaching middle schoolers

[20:29] The types of freakouts

[25:44] Why do kids freak out?

[30:18] Modeling/teaching emotional regulation

[36:04] How do parents navigate freakouts/how do we shrink our buttons?

[43:52] Smart phones/social media and kids

[50:42] Waiting on phones plan

[55:39] The book

[56:17] Lightning round

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Show references:

Carla and Josh on Startup Dad - youtube.com/watch?v=YiaE6ZmaOIQ

How to Stop Losing Your Sh*t with Your Kids: A Practical Guide to Becoming a Calmer, Happier Parent: https://www.amazon.com/How-Stop-Losing-Your-Kids/dp/1523505427

You Are Not a Sh*tty Parent: How to Practice Self-Compassion and Give Yourself a Break: https://www.amazon.com/You-Are-Not-Parent-Self-Compassion/dp/1523517115

Ready, Set, Breathe: Practicing Mindfulness with Your Children for Fewer Meltdowns and a More Peaceful Family: https://www.amazon.com/Ready-Set-Breathe-Practicing-Mindfulness/dp/1626252904/

Parenting in the Present Moment: How to Stay Focused on What Really Matters: https://www.amazon.com/Parenting-Present-Moment-Focused-Matters/dp/1937006832/

How to Stop Freaking Out: The Ultimate Guide to Keeping Cool When Life Feels Chaotic: https://www.amazon.com/How-Stop-Freaking-Out-Ultimate/dp/1523518243/

Sweet Valley High: https://www.amazon.com/Sweet-Valley-High-138-book-series/dp/B08LGKQMDM

Mount Everest: https://www.britannica.com/place/Mount-Everest

Oprah: https://www.oprah.com/index.html

The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/0593655036

Taylor Swift: https://www.taylorswift.com/

Snapchat: https://www.snapchat.com/

First Phone: A Child's Guide to Digital Responsibility, Safety, and Etiquette by Catherine Pearlman PhD LCSW: https://www.amazon.com/First-Phone-Digital-Responsibility-Etiquette/dp/0593538331

Screenwise: Helping Kids Thrive (and Survive) in Their Digital World by Devorah Heitner: https://www.amazon.com/Screenwise-Helping-Thrive-Survive-Digital/dp/1629561452/

Caillou: https://en.caillou.com/

Bluey: https://www.bluey.tv/

MacGyver: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088559/

My Fair Lady: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058385/

The Breakfast Club: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088847/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Dirty Dancing: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092890/

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For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Kyle Lacy is the Chief Marketing Officer of Jellyfish—a platform that helps developers make data-backed decisions on resource investments. Across two decades he has built companies like Lessonly, Openview, Salesforce and ExactTarget. He’s also a husband and the father of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed:

* Managing work, life and parenting appropriately

* Handling stress across the different facets of your life

* Dispelling the myth about separation of ‘church and state’ between family and work

* Learning how to put your kids before yourself

* The role of nature vs. nurture in parenting

* The most important invention ever - the pee pee teepee

* How most parenting advice is complete crap

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Where to find Kyle Lacy

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylelacy

* X: https://x.com/kyleplacy

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:33] Welcome

[2:10] Kyle’s Professional background

[4:26] What life was like growing up

[6:12] Siblings

[6:24] Do your siblings have give you parenting advice?

[6:53] His family now and how he met his wife?

[9:06] Are his kids back to school?

[10:59] Decision to start a family

[12:34] Work/life balance

[15:27] Support network

[17:23] Separation of “church and state”

[19:58] Earliest memory after becoming a father?

[22:43] Dads and emotions

[24:11] Putting kids before yourself

[26:37] Surprising aspect of fatherhood

[28:18] Advice for younger Kyle?

[29:55] Advice to ignore?

[31:29] Fav book to read to kids

[32:14] Nature vs. Nurture

[33:27] Parenting frameworks

[35:29] How Kyle’s parenting style evolved

[38:02] Did parenting change you as a manager?

[40:53] When do he and his partner not align

[44:02] Kid’s relationship to tech

[47:42] Mistake as a father?

[48:33] Follow along

[50:11] Rapid fire

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Show references:

Jellyfish:https://jellyfish.co/

ExactTarget (now Salesforce): https://www.salesforce.com/

Lessonly (now Seismic): https://seismic.com/lessonly/

OpenView: https://openviewpartners.com/

Sam Richard LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sam-crowell-richard/

Sam Richar Twitter: @SamCRichard

Spokane, Washington: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/spokane

Indianapolis, Indiana: https://www.visittheusa.com/destination/indianapolis

Anderson University: https://andersonuniversity.edu/

Twitter Marketing for Dummies: https://www.amazon.com/Twitter-Marketing-Dummies-Kyle-Lacy/dp/0470930578

Branding Yourself: How to Use Social Media to Invent or Reinvent Yourself

by Erik Deckers & Kyle Lacy: https://www.amazon.com/Branding-Yourself-Social-Reinvent-Biz-Tech/dp/0789749726

CodeSweep (now HCL Software): https://www.hcl-software.com/appscan/products/appscan-codesweep

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/

Orange Theory: https://www.orangetheory.com/en-us

Greenlight: https://greenlight.com/

Linda Flanagan Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YLqEX8lZeFI

Pee pee tee pee: https://www.amazon.com/Peepee-Teepee-Sprinkling-WeeWee-Cellophane/dp/B000NM3DFY

What to Expect When You’re Expecting: https://www.amazon.com/What-Expect-When-Youre-Expecting/dp/0761187480

Boston, MA: https://www.boston.gov/

Calvin & Hobbes: https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Calvin-Hobbes-Bill-Watterson/dp/1449433251

Dogman: https://pilkey.com/series/dog-man

Gemstone Dragons: https://www.samanthamclark.com/gemstone-dragons/

Diary of a Wimpy Kid: https://wimpykid.com/

Big Nate: https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Popularity-Nothing-Possibly-Strikes/dp/0062968610

Crocs: https://www.crocs.com/

Jibbitz: https://www.crocs.com/c/jibbitz

Josh & Carla’s Episode: youtube.com/watch?v=YiaE6ZmaOIQ

New Balance white shoes: https://www.newbalance.com/men/shoes/all-shoes/

Nike: https://www.nike.com/

Bush’s beans: https://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/

The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness by Jonathan Haidt: https://www.amazon.com/Anxious-Generation-Rewiring-Childhood-Epidemic/dp/B0C9N2L56X/

Apple Vision pro: https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/

Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/

iPad: https://www.apple.com/ipad/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/

Diaper Genie: https://diapergenie.com/

Colts: https://www.colts.com/

Corvette: https://www.chevrolet.com/upcoming-vehicles/2025-corvette-zr1

Pink Fong: https://www.pinkfong.com/en/

Baby Shark: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNVE4szbMrOZk9IheX8vHbQ

Home Alone: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099785/

Gettysburg: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/

Kevin Hanaford is an engineering leader at popular chat application, Discord where he oversees security, safety, privacy and platform teams. His career has included companies like Microsoft, PayPal, Amazon, Salesforce, and autonomous vehicle company, Cruise. In addition to his roles at some of the most significant technology companies of the last two decades he’s also a husband and the father of two kids. In our conversation today we discussed:

* How his Dad started the local ISP in his home town

* How the world of internet safety and trust has shaped his perspective on parenting

* Frameworks and principles that he and his wife hold dearly for their family

* The relationship he wants his daughters to have with technology

* Balancing the demanding, 24/7 job of security with a commitment to his family

* His earliest and most surprising memories of becoming a Dad

* How he explains to his kids what Dad does for work

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Where to find Kevin Hanaford

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinhanaford/

* Kevin’s Website: https://kevinhanaford.com/

Where to find Adam Fishman

* FishmanAF Newsletter: www.FishmanAFNewsletter.com

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamjfishman/

* Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/startupdadpod/

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In this episode, we cover:

[1:34] Welcome

[1:47] How we got connected (thank you Behzod!)

[2:37] Kevin’s professional background

[4:48] His Dad starts an ISP

[6:57] Life now

[9:58] Partner’s work

[11:09] Decision to start a family

[13:57] Earliest memory of becoming a dad

[16:44] Most surprising thing since becoming a dad

[18:16] Advice for younger Kevin

[20:34] Advice to ignore

[23:07] Frameworks

[28:53] Where do you and your partner not align?

[32:38] Kid’s relationship with technology

[40:21] Managing job and family

[44:28] Explaining to kids what you do for work

[45:24] Mistake you have made as a dad

[47:51] What is one thing you gave up to be a dad?

[51:04] Follow along

[52:02] Rapid fire

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Show references:

Discord:https://discord.com/

Microsoft:https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/

PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/us/home

Amazon: amazon.com

Salesforce: https://www.salesforce.com/

Cruise: https://www.getcruise.com/

Moonfall Inc: https://moonfallink.com/

Sour Patch Kids: https://www.amazon.com/Sour-Patch-Kids-Chewy-Candy/dp/B003EMOPMK

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/

Inside Out 2: https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2

TikTok: tiktok.com

Halo: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo

Dr. Pepper:https://www.drpepper.com/s/

Mtn. Dew: https://www.pepsicopartners.com/pepsico/en/USD/PEPSICO-BRANDS/MTN-DEW%C2%AE/c/brand_mtnDew

Topo Chico: https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/topo-chico

Xbox Live: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/live

Destiny: https://www.amazon.com/Destiny-Standard-PlayStation-4/dp/B00BGA9Y3W

Stardew Valley: https://www.stardewvalley.net/

Insulated coffee mugs: https://www.amazon.com/YETI-Stackable-Insulated-Stainless-MagSlider/dp/B0CCJYXC4M

New Balance: https://www.newbalance.com/

Vans: https://www.vans.com/en-us

Britney Spears: https://britneyspears.com/

Oops I Did It Again: youtu.be/CduA0TULnow?si=4MEX39dbqu9C2uOE

Tina Turner: https://www.thetinaturner.com/

Taylor Swift: https://www.taylorswift.com/

Coco Melon: https://www.netflix.com/title/81273085

Star Wars Trilogy: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls052192052/

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For sponsorship inquiries email: [email protected].

For Startup Dad Merch: www.startupdadshop.com 

Production support for Startup Dad is provided by Tommy Harron at http://www.armaziproductions.com/