Stephan Livera Podcast

Stephan Livera Podcast

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  • What’s Next for Bitcoin and Mutiny Wallet with Ben Carman SLP551

    Ben Carman of Mutiny Wallet rejoins me on the show to talk about what’s coming next for Bitcoin. We talk about scaling Bitcoin and contrast the different mindsets, discuss different soft fork proposals and directions Bitcoin could go. We also talk about what impact covenants will have and the latest with Mutiny Wallet. 

    • Bitcoin’s biggest challenges
    • Taxonomy of Bitcoin development culture
    • Soft forks and covenants
    • What ‘counts’ as a Bitcoin L2? 
    • What are the big benefits of covenants? 
    • Mutiny Wallet - a new Hybrid era?
    • Will people get priced out? 
    • Fedimint support
    • Synthetic USD or swaps? 
    • Inscriptions and Spam
    • Links:

      • Site: mutinywallet.com
      • X: @benthecarman 
      • nostr: npub1u8lnhlw5usp3t9vmpz60ejpyt649z33hu82wc2hpv6m5xdqmuxhs46turz 
      • Inscriptions post: https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzdesxgerxdp58yenyvejqgswrlemlh2wgqc4jkds3d8ueqj9a2j3gcm7r48v9tskdd6rxsd7rtcrqsqqqa28wdzn0j 
      • Sponsors:

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        • Mempool.space
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        • Stephan Livera links:

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          • Timestamps/Chapters:

            • 00:00 - Introduction
            • 01:18 - Bitcoin's Challenges: Scaling and Social Consensus
            • 08:50 - Different Perspectives on Bitcoin's Future
            • 16:10 - The Importance of Unilateral Exit and Self-Custody
            • 21:16 - The Potential of Covenants for Scaling Bitcoin
            • 25:23 - Mempool.space
            • 26:17 - Coinkite.com
            • 27:37 - Bitcoin Ark - A Payment Pool
            • 31:11 - Introduction to Mutiny Wallet
            • 34:36 - Addressing Security Concerns
            • 37:06 - Simplifying Onboarding and Social Features in Mutiny Wallet
            • 41:50 - The Challenge of Scalability and Affordability
            • 43:50 - Building a Hybrid Wallet with Fediment Support
            • 45:50 - NomadCapitalist.com
            • 47:50 - Swan.com
            • 49:07 - Guardians and Discoverability in Mutiny Wallet
            • 50:50 - Multiple Federation Support in Mutiny Wallet
            • 55:25 - Stable Channels and Synthetic USD in Mutiny Wallet
            • 01:00:20 - The Role of ETFs and Number Go Up in Bitcoin Adoption
            • 01:04:40 - The Debate on Inscriptions and Shitcoins in Bitcoin
            • 01:08:01 - Closing Thoughts
            • 1 hr 10 min
            • Dispelling False Narratives About Bitcoin with Daniel Batten SLP550

              Do the lies about Bitcoin frustrate you? Join us in this episode as we discuss the ways to dispel and debunk some of the most egregious false climate narratives on Bitcoin with Daniel Batten, Managing Partner at CH4 Capital. We discuss:

              • The biggest bitcoin climate myths
              • Dishonest portrayal in the media
              • “Per transaction” fake methodology
              • Where Cambridge CCAF is wrong
              • Bitcoin’s PoW and ‘ideological intransigence’
              • ESMA submission
              • How Bitcoiners can help
              • Links:

                • X: @DSBatten
                • Articles: https://batcoinz.com/submission-to-esma-on-bitcoin-mining/
                • https://batcoinz.com/a-tale-of-two-articles/
                • Prior episodes referred to

                  • SLP487 Bitcoin Mining Energy Debate – Digiconomist and Ben Gagnon  
                  • SLP542 Defending Bitcoin PoW in the EU with Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Bota Jardemalie
                  • Sponsors:

                    • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                    • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                    • Mempool.space
                    • Stephan Livera links:

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                      • Subscribe to the podcast
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                      • Timestamps/Chapters:

                        • 00:00 - Introduction
                        • 01:51 - Daniel's Journey with Bitcoin
                        • 09:13 - Biggest Bitcoin Climate Myths
                        • 18:34 - Coinkite.com
                        • 19:37 - Mempool.space
                        • 20:34 - How Media Perceptions about Bitcoin Changed Over Time
                        • 36:20 - Cambridge Bitcoin Estimate
                        • 44:45 - Swan.com
                        • 45:54 - Acknowledging Other Paths To Sustainability
                        • 57:10 - Submission to ESMA and Correcting False Narratives
                        • 01:09:21 - Bitcoin's Environmental Benefits
                        • 01:12:40 - Closing Thoughts
                        • 1 hr 14 min
                        • Is Everything Good For Bitcoin? with Christian Keroles SLP549

                          We talk about monetary maximalism, and whether everything is good for bitcoin with Christian Keroles of HRF. We discuss:

                          • Monetary maximalism: descriptive or prescriptive
                          • Bitcoin Spam 
                          • Antifragility
                          • What bitcoiners are getting wrong on personal finance
                          • How 2023 played out with “ordinals”
                          • Not being used to winning
                          • Links:

                            • X: @ck_SNARKs
                            • Site: HRF.org
                            • Site: https://cbdctracker.hrf.org/home
                            • Sponsors:

                              • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                              • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                              • Mempool.space
                              • Stephan Livera links:

                                • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera
                                • Subscribe to the podcast
                                • Subscribe to Substack
                                • Timestamp/Chapters:

                                  • 00:00 - Introduction
                                  • 01:22 - Defining Monetary Maximalism
                                  • 03:10 - Monetary Maximalism as an Observation
                                  • 05:00 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive Monetary Maximalism
                                  • 09:50 - The Debate on Ordinals and Spam
                                  • 21:05 - The Nuisance Level of Spam
                                  • 22:48 - What Are Most Bitcoiners Getting Wrong On Personal Finance
                                  • 29:49 - The Emergence of Ordinals and Inscriptions
                                  • 32:27 - Coinkite.com
                                  • 33:28 - Swan.com
                                  • 34:31 - Mempool.space
                                  • 35:54 - The Umbrella Term of Ordinals
                                  • 41:16 - The Fallout and Consequences of Bitcoin Developments
                                  • 48:53 - The Strengthening of Bitcoin through Challenges
                                  • 53:20 - The Debate on Filtering in Bitcoin
                                  • 58:32 - The Emergence of Runes Protocol
                                  • 01:02:13 - Bitcoin's Winning Streak
                                  • 01:04:35 - Confusion and False Narratives
                                  • 01:07:37 - The Base of Bitcoin: 21 Million Coins and HODL
                                  • 01:08:37 - Closing Thoughts and Bitcoin Adoption
                                  • 1 hr 12 min
                                  • Bitcoin Oasis 2024 interviews - Zucco, Rizzo, Dashjr, Prince Philip, De La Torre SLP548

                                    We’re trying something a little different this episode! While at Bitcoin Oasis 2024 in Dubai I captured some short interviews with some speakers at the conference. We covered a wide range of topics ranging from Bitcoin Spam, to nation state adoption and honestly grappling with bitcoin user adoption trade offs. The speakers interviewed are:

                                    • Alejandro De La Torre of Demand Mining
                                    • Luke Dashjr of Ocean Mining
                                    • Prince Philip of Serbia, from JAN3
                                    • Pete Rizzo of Bitcoin Magazine
                                    • Giacomo Zucco of Plan B Network
                                    • Links:

                                      • Alejandro De La Torre X: @bitentrepreneur 
                                      •  Luke Dashjr X: @LukeDashjr  and https://ocean.xyz/
                                      • Prince Philip of Serbia X: @PrincFilip1 and https://jan3.com/
                                      • Pete Rizzo X: @pete_rizzo_ and Bitcoinmagazine.com
                                      • Giacomo Zucco X: @giacomozucco and https://planb.network/
                                      • Sponsors:

                                        • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                                        • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                                        • Mempool.space
                                        • https://nomadcapitalist.com
                                        • Stephan Livera links:

                                          • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera
                                          • Subscribe to the podcast
                                          • Subscribe to Substack
                                          • Timestamps/Chapters:

                                            • 00:00 - Introduction
                                            • 01:44 - Alejandro De La Torre Interview
                                            • 08:26 - Luke Dashjr Interview
                                            • 21:10 - Swan.com
                                            • 22:46 - Mempool.space
                                            • 23:47 - Prince Philip of Serbia Interview
                                            • 37:08 - Pete Rizzo Interview
                                            • 54:29 - Coinkite.com
                                            • 55:46 - NomadCapitalist.com
                                            • 57:20 - Giacomo Zucco Interview
                                            • 01:13:26 - Closing Thoughts
                                            • 1 hr 15 min
                                            • Big Changes in El Salvador with Mike Peterson SLP547

                                              Mike Peterson from Bitcoin Beach El Zonte, El Salvador rejoins me on the show to give listeners some updates from El Salvador. Having a reduced crime rate and improved investment and tourism into the country has driven big changes! We talk:

                                              • How things look a few years on from the Bitcoin Law
                                              • Life on the ground in El Salvador
                                              • How easy it is to move
                                              • El Salvador $1M Citizenship Program
                                              • Dealing with on chain fees
                                              • Custodial vs Self Custodial and pragmatism
                                              • ‘Circular Economies’ and insights from his networking around the world
                                              • Links:

                                                • X: @Bitcoinbeach
                                                • YT: @LiveFromBitcoinBeach 
                                                • Sponsors:

                                                  • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                                                  • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                                                  • Mempool.space
                                                  • Stephan Livera links:

                                                    • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera
                                                    • Subscribe to the podcast
                                                    • Subscribe to Substack
                                                    • Timestamps/Chapters:

                                                      00:00 - Introduction and Background

                                                      01:20 - Two and a Half Years After Bitcoin Adoption in El Salvador

                                                      05:21 - Financial Innovation in El Salvador

                                                      09:36 - Bottom-Up vs Top-Down Adoption of Bitcoin

                                                      11:00 - Ease of Setting Up in El Salvador

                                                      21:05 - Coinkite.com

                                                      22:13 - Mempool.space

                                                      22:56 - Swan.com

                                                      24:15 - Living on Bitcoin in El Salvador

                                                      31:48 - Bitcoin Meetups and Events in El Salvador

                                                      35:51 - Circular Economies and Bitcoin Adoption

                                                      40:55 - Insights from Other Circular Economies

                                                      50:05 - Custodial vs. Non-Custodial

                                                      54:21 - The Bitcoin Beach Podcast

                                                      56:16 - Closing thoughts

                                                      58 min
                                                    • 2024 Lightning Wallet Overview with Anita Posch SLP546

                                                      Get an overview of lightning wallets in this episode with Anita Posch. Anita walks through what she found in testing self custodial lightning wallets under conditions of poor internet connectivity. We also talk about themes that came up at the recent Adopting Bitcoin Cape Town South Africa. 

                                                      • On the ground insights
                                                      • Results of the self custodial wallet test
                                                      • Which LN apps came out best? 
                                                      • The situation with fees
                                                      • Where the test might not be suitable
                                                      • How things may change with a Liquid or Fedimint approach
                                                      • Links:

                                                        • X: @AnitaPosch
                                                        • Site: bffbtc.org
                                                        • Bitcoin for Fairness - Anita Posch 
                                                        • (L)earn Bitcoin
                                                        • Sponsors:

                                                          • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
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                                                          • Mempool.space
                                                          • Stephan Livera links:

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                                                            • 1 hr 5 min
                                                            • Bitcoin Life Insurance with Zac Townsend SLP545

                                                              What does Life Insurance look like when it’s all priced and done in Bitcoin? Zac Townsend (CEO and co-founder of Meanwhile) joins me on the show to talk about it. We discuss:

                                                              • Life insurance as a model
                                                              • Term or Whole life
                                                              • Bitcoin denomination
                                                              • Is it the next Celsius or BlockFi? 
                                                              • Does it work under a deflationary
                                                              • Private credit fund
                                                              • Links:

                                                                • X: @ztownsend
                                                                •  X: @meanwhilelife
                                                                • Site: meanwhile.bm 
                                                                • Sponsors:

                                                                  • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
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                                                                  • Mempool.space
                                                                  • nomadcapitalist.com/apply
                                                                  • Stephan Livera links:

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                                                                    • 1 hr 12 min
                                                                    • Where Did Bitcoin Come From? The Genesis Book with Aaron van Wirdum (SLP544)

                                                                      Aaron van Wirdum rejoins me to talk about his exploration of how Bitcoin came to be. We talk about his new book, The Genesis Book. In this book, Aaron explores some of the technologies, and philosophies that led to the creation of Bitcoin. We discuss:

                                                                      • What he learned in making this book
                                                                      • Hayek and the Austrians
                                                                      • Extropians
                                                                      • Cryptography and the Cypherpunks
                                                                      • Libertarians
                                                                      • Precursor tech to Bitcoin
                                                                      • Links:

                                                                        • X: @AaronvanW
                                                                        • Site: http://thegenesisbook.com/
                                                                        • Nostr #npub1art8cs66ffvnqns5zs5qa9fwlctmusj5lj38j94lv0ulw0j54wjqhpm0w5
                                                                        • Sponsors:

                                                                          • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                          • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                          • Mempool.space
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                                                                          • Stephan Livera links:

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                                                                            • Timestamp/Chapters:

                                                                              00:00 - Introduction

                                                                              01:07 - Motivation for Writing the Book

                                                                              04:05 - Bitcoin's Origins and Evolution

                                                                              08:21 - The Influence of Hayek and Austrian Economics

                                                                              18:54 - The Connection Between FOSS and Bitcoin

                                                                              25:49 - The Extropians and Their Vision

                                                                              30:47 - The Cypherpunks and Their Ideology

                                                                              32:28 - Swan.com

                                                                              33:52 - Mempool.space

                                                                              35:00 - Coinkite.com

                                                                              39:30 - The Rise and Fall of DigiCash

                                                                              51:20 - The Crypto Wars and Government Regulation

                                                                              56:26 - Pre-cursor Electronic Cash Projects

                                                                              01:01:20 - Satoshi's Clever Insight

                                                                              01:03:00 - Closing thoughts

                                                                              1 hr 5 min
                                                                            • Bitcoin Mining Around the World with Seb Gouspillou (SLP543)

                                                                              Sébastien Gouspillou is a French Bitcoin miner, entrepreneur, and speaker. He is the CEO of BBGS (Big Block Green Services) and he joins me to talk about Bitcoin mining in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Oman and elsewhere around the world: 

                                                                              • Bitcoin mining in the DRC
                                                                              • Bitcoin mining in Oman
                                                                              • Using various forms of energy 
                                                                              • Working in different environments
                                                                              • Narrative shifts in Bitcoin Mining and Proof of Work
                                                                              • Links:

                                                                                • X: @SebGouspillou
                                                                                • Site: bbgsmining.com
                                                                                • Sponsors:

                                                                                  • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                                  • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                                  • Mempool.space
                                                                                  • Nomad Capitalist LIVE
                                                                                  • Stephan Livera links:

                                                                                    • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera
                                                                                    • Subscribe to the podcast
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                                                                                    • Timestamps/Chapters:

                                                                                      00:00 - Introduction and Background

                                                                                      02:34 - Challenges and Risks in the Congo

                                                                                      04:30 - Bitcoin Mining in Virunga National Park

                                                                                      09:28 - Performance and Investment in the DRC

                                                                                      14:10 - Economic Opportunities and Job Creation

                                                                                      23:31 - Bitcoin Mining in Oman

                                                                                      28:05 - Challenges of Solar-Powered Mining

                                                                                      31:38 - Bitcoin Mining in the Middle East

                                                                                      41:30 - Mining Potential in Africa

                                                                                      45:05 - Energy Sources

                                                                                      47:37 - The Environmental Impact of Bitcoin Mining

                                                                                      55:35 - Closing Thoughts

                                                                                      57 min
                                                                                    • Defending Bitcoin PoW in the EU with Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Bota Jardemalie (SLP542)

                                                                                      It seems that the EU is constantly coming out with bad new regulations that will impact Bitcoiners and Bitcoin miners. Joining me today is Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Bota Jardemalie from the Open Dialogue Foundation - Bitcoin and human rights advocates. We talk about:

                                                                                      • EU bureaucracy and ECB threat to Bitcoin
                                                                                      • Why engage with these people at all?
                                                                                      • Attacks on Bitcoin’s Proof of Work
                                                                                      • Threat to self custody and sovereignty - AML
                                                                                      • Bitcoin as bank of last resort
                                                                                      • How you can help with testimonials
                                                                                      • Links:

                                                                                        • PoW submission: https://en.odfoundation.eu/a/724499,defend-pow-submission-to-esma/
                                                                                        • EU AML submission: https://en.odfoundation.eu/a/578069,can-the-eus-anti-money-laundering-reform-help-dictators/
                                                                                        • Site / Support OD Foundation: https://en.odfoundation.eu/how-can-you-help/
                                                                                        • Lyudmyla on X: @LyudaKozlovska 
                                                                                        • Bota on X: @jardemalie
                                                                                        • Sponsors:

                                                                                          • Swan.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                                          • CoinKite.com (code LIVERA)
                                                                                          • Mempool.space
                                                                                          • NomadCapitalist.com LIVE
                                                                                          • Stephan Livera links:

                                                                                            • Follow me on X: @stephanlivera
                                                                                            • Subscribe to the podcast
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                                                                                            • Timestamps/Chapters:

                                                                                              00:00 - Introduction and Background

                                                                                              04:55 - The current threats

                                                                                              08:00 - Engaging with Regulators

                                                                                              12:05 - Can they be reasoned with?

                                                                                              17:30 - Threats to mining

                                                                                              25:55 - ESG Narrative and Proof of Work

                                                                                              38:20 - Threats to Self Custody and AML Regulations

                                                                                              46:03 - AML and Counter-Terrorism Financing Regulations

                                                                                              52:50 - De-risking and Financial Exclusion

                                                                                              01:00:28 - Summary of Key Concerns and closing thoughts

                                                                                              1 hr 4 min

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